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Chris Edberg
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Exactly, Mark.
But as Randor said... I have Renoise now and I can do everything in each channel as I am composing, dont have to save each track to wav and do such things.  |
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RAVE-n
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I don't think Mark ment like editing every WAV by itself.
This would have been nonsence, for I doubt anyone can actually
adjust frequencies/effects by memory
Acid, cooledit, cubase etc. can load multiple wavs at once on separate trackes,
which you can effect separately then. and it don't even need so much of a
calculationg power ( if you restrict yourself to like a few channels and no
postprocesing effects ( delay, reverb...), however, making wav of every single instrument and then mastering it at once would kill cpu on sight  |
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Szartd
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For me it asks loads more cpu power than the sofwtare I compose in , loading 30+ wavs into Acid (what I use) isn't funny for my CPU and memory power 
Ake and Randor> No , Renoise or reason doesn't offer enough quality to do a good master .... you get that extra "thouch " when you edit your channels outside reason ,fruity , renoise or whatever you use . Rendering a whole wav out of the composing software , is always noticable ....
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Nygen Dale
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mark wrote on 28 Nov. (16:31) :
Ake and Randor> No , Renoise or reason doesn't offer enough quality to do a good master .... you get that extra "thouch " when you edit your channels outside reason ,fruity , renoise or whatever you use . Rendering a whole wav out of the composing software , is always noticable ....
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Sounds totally reasonable to me but don't you have to see how a channel sounds together with the others to apply the effects right? Having each channel sound great by itself doesn't mean all channels together sound great, does it? Other than that that idea sounds interesting
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Szartd
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N.D. wrote on 28 Nov. (17:03) :
mark wrote on 28 Nov. (16:31) :
Ake and Randor> No , Renoise or reason doesn't offer enough quality to do a good master .... you get that extra "thouch " when you edit your channels outside reason ,fruity , renoise or whatever you use . Rendering a whole wav out of the composing software , is always noticable ....
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Sounds totally reasonable to me but don't you have to see how a channel sounds together with the others to apply the effects right? Having each channel sound great by itself doesn't mean all channels together sound great, does it? Other than that that idea sounds interesting
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Uhm didn't you read rave-n's post ? You gotta open all wavs in a software that can open and play them all together .... like acid does , or cool edit , soundforge ... whateevr .
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Randor
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mark wrote on 28 Nov. (16:31) :
For me it asks loads more cpu power than the sofwtare I compose in , loading 30+ wavs into Acid (what I use) isn't funny for my CPU and memory power
Ake and Randor> No , Renoise or reason doesn't offer enough quality to do a good master .... you get that extra "thouch " when you edit your channels outside reason ,fruity , renoise or whatever you use . Rendering a whole wav out of the composing software , is always noticable .... |
Reason offers good enough tools for each track editing, it'll be frustrating to tweak sounds after mixdown especially if you realize you have to go back to sequencer and tweak synth, mixdown and load whole shit again to multitrack window. I've notieced this technical stuff just ruins my creativity and therefore said Reasons tools are good enough to me, besides it's way more versatile than looks out at once. ....and small notice: working with multitrack is mixing, not mastering, wich is actually what you do to single stereo wave
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Szartd
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Randor wrote on 28 Nov. (19:38) :
mark wrote on 28 Nov. (16:31) :
For me it asks loads more cpu power than the sofwtare I compose in , loading 30+ wavs into Acid (what I use) isn't funny for my CPU and memory power
Ake and Randor> No , Renoise or reason doesn't offer enough quality to do a good master .... you get that extra "thouch " when you edit your channels outside reason ,fruity , renoise or whatever you use . Rendering a whole wav out of the composing software , is always noticable .... |
Reason offers good enough tools for each track editing, it'll be frustrating to tweak sounds after mixdown especially if you realize you have to go back to sequencer and tweak synth, mixdown and load whole shit again to multitrack window. I've notieced this technical stuff just ruins my creativity and therefore said Reasons tools are good enough to me, besides it's way more versatile than looks out at once. ....and small notice: working with multitrack is mixing, not mastering, wich is actually what you do to single stereo wave
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yeah right ..... hehe , I said my things , no need to follow them or believe them
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FeralCode
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| Just reading the replies, maybe I'm completely lost, but then how do you master the songs you got for ATIT3? You dont have the chance to slice it to channels. |
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Randor
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mark wrote on 28 Nov. (19:42) :
yeah right ..... hehe , I said my things , no need to follow them or believe them |
Hehe, I DO believe, just can't obey And I DO know reason's abilities....
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RAVE-n
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Registered: 28.Dec.02 |
doriath wrote on 28 Nov. (20:00) :
Just reading the replies, maybe I'm completely lost, but then how do you master the songs you got for ATIT3? You dont have the chance to slice it to channels. |
I believe mastering in that case means limiting/EQing traks in that way that
they have same volume and the same feel-it would be certainly good for a coherency of the cd
...atleas i think so |
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