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| Whether it is possible to place remixes (including voice) on this site? |
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Szartd
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It isn't alowed , when the vocals are the same as the copyrighted ones in the original .
If you use them , you'r song will be removed , somethimes the lasy staff people on this site will notice it too late ... but it will be removed anyway, just stick to the rules that are discribed before you submit a song .
ps. It is a very bad thing nobody noticed that song on the december CTG mix!  |
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Mark wrote on 31 Dec. (16:42) :
It isn't alowed , when the vocals are the same as the copyrighted ones in the original .
If you use them , you'r song will be removed , somethimes the lasy staff people on this site will notice it too late ... but it will be removed anyway, just stick to the rules that are discribed before you submit a song .
ps. It is a very bad thing nobody noticed that song on the december CTG mix! |
What if you've been paid by the original artist to do the remix? |
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Szartd
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uhm look below here  |
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What if you've been paid by the original artist to do the remix? |
Payed doesn't say anything , it is about if you got permission from the recordlabel that signed your remix .... and we are not talking about that , because off course if you got permission from your label to release a remix freely on the internet (what I doubt in 90% of the remixes) , you can do that here also , no problem .
But we are here talking about a very average remix that will never make some descent release, it is just some nice try out from somebody messing with his computer on his sleeping room , like we all do here.... sorry to say it that way ... but it is what 90% (in my opinion) of the remixes of "comercial" tracks here is about ....
SO if you got permission to freely share a remix on the net .... (that contains copyrighted material , like samples or vocals from the original) go ahead .... but do you really think some label or artist will alow that ? ( remember we are talking about comercial or so called "pro" artist/acts/labels here, so don't start to yell about "i made some song and gave somebdoy permission blah blah" ... )
Pretty silly reply also HomeSick , pretty pointless ... |
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Mark wrote on 01 Jan. (0:06) :
But we are here talking about a very average remix that will never make some descent release, it is just some nice try out from somebody messing with his computer on his sleeping room , like we all do here.... sorry to say it that way ... but it is what 90% (in my opinion) of the remixes of "comercial" tracks here is about ....
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So what you're saying is that 90% of the remixes (which are not allowed here and thus deleted) are just as bad as the rest of the songs here at ctg?
Anyways, what are the legal aspects of covers as opposed to remixes, i.e. copyrighted compositions vs copyrighted recordings? |
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Szartd
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s-f wrote on 01 Jan. (3:02) :
Mark wrote on 01 Jan. (0:06) :
But we are here talking about a very average remix that will never make some descent release, it is just some nice try out from somebody messing with his computer on his sleeping room , like we all do here.... sorry to say it that way ... but it is what 90% (in my opinion) of the remixes of "comercial" tracks here is about ....
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So what you're saying is that 90% of the remixes (which are not allowed here and thus deleted) are just as bad as the rest of the songs here at ctg?
Anyways, what are the legal aspects of covers as opposed to remixes, i.e. copyrighted compositions vs copyrighted recordings? |
If your cover doesn't contain any copyrighted samples taken from the original , you are free to make a cover , or a remix .....
Anyway before you submit a track you can see all the info |
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HomesickAlien
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Mark wrote on 01 Jan. (0:06) :
SO if you got permission to freely share a remix on the net .... (that contains copyrighted material , like samples or vocals from the original) go ahead .... but do you really think some label or artist will alow that ? ( remember we are talking about comercial or so called "pro" artist/acts/labels here, so don't start to yell about "i made some song and gave somebdoy permission blah blah" ... )
Pretty silly reply also HomeSick , pretty pointless ... |
Of course it was pointless. You say that after every single thing that I post. 
Anyhow, if I were in your position I'd stand against remixes of any kind being distributed here. This was not made initially clear with TiS and when I was there it caused some problems.
The reason is simple. With a site this large, you'll never have time to check each and every remix to make sure that the company has allowed the use of the samples. So I'd say you should probably go against any and all commercial remixes for your own sake. It's no fun to have people threatening lawsuits to your site.
Also, there are some commercial artists that choose to use common copyrights instead of traditional copyrights. The difference (broken down to a very basic level) is that common copyrights allow for sampling, remixing, etc. so long as credit to the original artist is given. If I recall correctly, The White Stripes use common copyrights and had someone remix their entire album without their knowledge. (They didn't really care of course.)
My point is: there's a lot of stuff that you'd have to deal with if you were to allow remixes and such to be distributed through the site. As such, I'd probably set a precedent to put a stop to it if I were you.
Oh, and I've done low cost remixing for local bands in the past where I was allowed to distribute the songs online (with permission from their labels nonetheless.) So it's not totally impossible, just so tough to check up on that it's probably not worth allowing. |
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Szartd
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Of course it was pointless. You say that after every single thing that I post. |
Happy new year to you too
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Anyhow, if I were in your position I'd stand against remixes of any kind being distributed here. This was not made initially clear with TiS and when I was there it caused some problems. |
Why ? As long it doesn't contain samples suck as vocals from the original you are free to remix what you want ...
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The reason is simple. With a site this large, you'll never have time to check each and every remix to make sure that the company has allowed the use of the samples. So I'd say you should probably go against any and all commercial remixes for your own sake. It's no fun to have people threatening lawsuits to your site. |
We can clearly hear the difference between an amateur and a pro... What I mean is that the last few songs that are removed for this reason are shameless ripp offs from a comercial track ..... if some artsist just use some vocals or other samples parts from the original it is very clear to us it is not allowed ...
IF we are not sure , we will ask the artist , and that artist just needs to prove him or herself ... about checkling all songs ..... we are doing that all the time this way and we will keep on doing it I don't see a problem there.
About lawsuits : We cannot get them , we are not hosting the songs, we just don't alow shameless ripp offs what are so called "remixes" now on CTG .
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Also, there are some commercial artists that choose to use common copyrights instead of traditional copyrights. The difference (broken down to a very basic level) is that common copyrights allow for sampling, remixing, etc. so long as credit to the original artist is given. If I recall correctly, The White Stripes use common copyrights and had someone remix their entire album without their knowledge. (They didn't really care of course.) |
Yes I know , so ?
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My point is: there's a lot of stuff that you'd have to deal with if you were to allow remixes and such to be distributed through the site. As such, I'd probably set a precedent to put a stop to it if I were you. |
Why ?
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Oh, and I've done low cost remixing for local bands in the past where I was allowed to distribute the songs online (with permission from their labels nonetheless.) So it's not totally impossible, just so tough to check up on that it's probably not worth allowing. |
I never said it was impossible.
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