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Philospher's Club: What determines a persons taste in music? [GENERAL]
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FleshDance
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Write new replyFri 27 Feb. 2004 (9:06) [144.134.97.205] 41/43 quick link
I have to type the quotes as there is no where I can find to access them yet (or anytime for that matter)!

This is part of an interview with John Sloboda the aforementioned psychologist:
"And how does music mimic emotional signals?
"The most important signals are human vocalisations....if you manipulate music in the ways in which speecg is manipulated to make speech sound emotional, then that music sounds emotional, too.
"If I spoke very, very slowly, pitching my voice down at the end of sentences, you would interpret that as me being pretty depressed. If you write or play music like that - slowly with a falling cadence - listeners immediately say "That's sad". They are what I call "iconic connections". And they are very powerful, almost universal and automatic. It doesn't really matter what culture you come from because you make links to these innate human vocalisations of excitement, depression and so on, which the entire human race shares, so the mapping is very simple. There are only a handful of basic emtions: happiness, sadness, fear, anger and possibly tenderness...."

If you want to look for it, the issue is #2423, 29th November 2003.
As the nightbird mocks and sings,
As I revel
In the comfort darkness brings;
As my angel spreads her wings.
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Fidelio
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Write new replySat 28 Feb. 2004 (13:45) [129.241.151.33] 42/43 quick link
FleshDance wrote on 27 Feb. (8:43) :

I have an article from a New Scientist magazine which sheds some light on why music has such an effect on us. Here is a more interesting part:
".... Some of the most popular rhythmic paterns in music reflect rhythms in our bodies, especially heartbeat and breathing. And as the psychologist John Sloboda explains, some of the most imporatnt emotional "signals" in music echo human vocalisations. If you play around with music the same way we play with speech when we are expressing emotions - raising or lowering the voice, say - the music, too, sounds emotional.
"This, he says, might explain the universal appeal of many forms of music, since basic human emotions are common to all cultures....
"Sloboda points out that a key aspect of our emotions is that they are tuned to detect change. The change may be something positive (falling in love, winning the lottery), or negative (sickness or the death of someone you care about). Either way, the message of change is: pay attention now! We are incredibly god at recognising patterns and, more to the point, deviations in patterns. Since music is essentially pattern in sound, it is not hard to see how it can "hook" us with subtle variation in melody, structure or rhythm. As people listen to music they pick up on the patterns and make predictions about what will come next - without needing any formal musical training. And when those expectations are violated, the musical surprises inevitably prduce emotional reactions."

One interpretation of the way music is described here is this: someone listens to a piece of music, identifies a melody/theme he or she likes because the "vocalisation" somehow represents something they feel more primitively. The same could go for rhythm.


As the nightbird mocks and sings,
As I revel
In the comfort darkness brings;
As my angel spreads her wings.


I agree on all this, I was going to reply on this earlier, but I haven't had the time earlier. Now that you have contributed with this, there is little to add from my opionions. What I want to add however, is that I believe that all is started with our first heartbeats. I believe that growing up, one learns what is to be assosiated with different emotions, therefor being able to reproduce it. Therefore I believe that when you're a kid and your mom or dad sings you a lullaby, you learn to assosiate it with sleep, and the soothing song assosiates with your parent's smile, eyes etc. The song gets to you as you fall a sleep, and later, when you get kids of your own, you'll be the one singing the same lollaby, reproducing the same effects for you offspring.

So all comes down to stimuli - response  ;)
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Kevin Zhan
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Write new replySat 28 Feb. 2004 (16:39) [68.100.109.170] 43/43 quick link
another aspect that influences me? = God :) . I love jesus. heehee :xsanta:
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