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psy
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Registered: 06.Mar.04 |
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I m a big fan of psychedelic trance music so i ll only mention psychedelic artists (of course this question s for everyone who likes trance music, whatever style, and are interested in new sounds and how the trance music will continue to progress.
Infected Mushroom (despite their last album "Converting Vegeterians" which brings nothing new) r always trying to evolve and "BP Empire" LP was an outstanding album with new kinda drum loops & sounds.
PsySex: another israli band who loves sci fi movies & they use lot of effects. I havent heard all the tunes from last album "Come in peace" but i loved "Hardcore Blastoff"
Rinkadink: south african artist who knows how to give explosion to his tunes. "Soyo kaze" & "Blank" are excellent tunes.
The idea of this new topic s to help everyone to find new inspiration & structures for the tunes they r doing. My oppinion about dutch trance s that doesnt give too many surprises. I learnt a lot about melodies thanx to dutch trance but they dont offer me new sounds & drum loops.
I dont wanna make a discussion... i dont care which s better or not... (dutch or psychedelic). I just wanna find new elements that help me to develop my tunes.
Actually the title of the topic would have been other but anyway...
I also find breakbeat interesting... (i put some breakbeats in my tunes if u ve heard them) but I got this influence thanx to psychedelic trance. Many tunes have breakbeat parts (exe PsySex, S.U.N. Project tunes, not all of course).
Hope u can write ur oppinion so we can listen to a wide range of artists and see what we can get from them. Doesnt matter if it s techno, ambient, house, psy, prog, goa, hard, hi-nrg, trance... if u think it s different or has something different just write it... U can name artists, songs, parts of a song, sounds, melodies, structures, whatever u think makes a difference from other tunes...
Best regards
PsyXel http://www.psyxel.ctgmusic.com |
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HomesickAlien
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I always find it helpful to step outside the genre when looking for new and inventive ideas.
There's really nothing new that can be done with music, it's all about the way that you put it together. So learn about some freeform jazz (for example) and work that kind of thing in with your trance, it could produce interesting results.
If you are looking for new ideas for your tunes, and you only look at people within your genre, you are limiting yourself incredibly. |
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psy
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I disagree with HomesickAlien. In electronic music there s always something to do... software & hardware s always getting better... new VST instruments & fxs, new synths, infinite ways of using FXs in each part of the tune, infinite ways in makin tha tunes, infinite ways of putting together different styles.
Unfortunately for jazz & blues lovers, electronic music ll become massive & massive. Like rock'n'roll was the beast created in the '50. Electronic music s been the beast since late '80 and will be for the years to come.
True that there s nothing really new in 4 member s band (guitar,bass,drum & vocals). Nu metal, pop, hard rock, .... nothin revolutionary. Electronic music s the revolutionary genre.
Again, coz i m a psychedelic freak, i ll tell HomesickAlien to listen to psychedelic music. U ll find that this people mix everything and try to make the next step. (listen to Cosmosis s tune "Down at the crossroa" remind of ZZ Top; Shpongle: u ll find latin influences in 1 tune they ve made; and i could keep writing names & tracks). Last thing about psy artists: most of them dont listen to psychedelic trance when they r at home (talkin about the old generation of psy artists.... maybe the new generation like Astrix & co. listen to trance all the time... dont know)
Thanx Homesick for ur oppinion
PsyXel http://www.psyxel.ctgmusic.com |
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obScene
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How can you disagree with what HSA said? He said there was nothing new you can do with music except the way you put it together... you said he's wrong because there are new software/hardware, VSTi's etc etc.... who cares. This would be what he meant by "except the way you put it together"!!!
The software , hardware, sound fonts, samples, vst's we use is not music... its not even the building blocks of music. It's the skin. If you improve your music only by trying interesting sounds, well then the music is no more interesting, only the sound.
If you want to hear real music look at chip music. There are great chip artists who can convey feelings and emotions that you cant get just by looping breakbeat patterns synthesizers. The music is much deeper than the skin and genre it wears. When I look at other artists to find inspirations I dont listen to their sounds, I listen to the creative things they can do with them, the way they arrange, how the songs moves from beginning to end and what I was left feeling afterwards. If I was barraged with sampled drum loops and overpowering synth melodies I generally think the music to be shallow and uncreative.
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Registered: 16.Mar.03 |
obScene wrote on 12 Mar. (21:17) :
The software , hardware, sound fonts, samples, vst's we use is not music... its not even the building blocks of music. It's the skin. If you improve your music only by trying interesting sounds, well then the music is no more interesting, only the sound. |
Interesting statement, although I 100% disagree with this. I LOVE infected mushroom because of the strange and unpredictable sounds they can make. I dont love them because they make incredible build-ups, because they don't. I really like it when an artists makes new and interesting intruments, rather then the saw that I heard over and over again.
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If you want to hear real music look at chip music. |
Chips sux, pretty obvious that I think that, since I dun like the intruments. .. 
Someone should make fun out of you. Why don't you do it yourself? |
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obScene
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Analysis wrote on 12 Mar. (21:22) :
Chips sux, pretty obvious that I think that, since I dun like the intruments. ..
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There are no instruments in chips, which is what I love. Its like naked music. It lets you hear exactly what the artist is capable of... lets you feel the emotion without trying to impress you with fancy bullshit.
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I never understood chips.. why make beautifull melodies with crappy intruments if you can make the same melodies sound 10 times better with good intruments?
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psy
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do u think that when a new genre appears s because people put thing in another way?
It s not that simple. If the electric guitar wouldnt have appeared we d never have talked about rock'n'roll. Same with electronic music!
With the synth u can go beyond... coz it s not only the way and notes u play but can stay hours & hours till u find new sounds. Do u think everyone use presets?
Intruments available are in the same level than the way u put it. Aborigens playing drums... do u think it was important how they put the parts? Of course, coz otherwise it was just chaos. But they played what the played coz they had only drums.
New technology comes, new genres comes. Blues, rock, etc etc etc etc
When he said "the way you put it together" u r talkin about melody & rythm. How u build the drum (if there s a drum), arrangements, melody of lead intruments, etc etc.
U wont discover anything new with the notes. U ve 7 notes (with a total of 12 different sounds).
Everything s been done. The way that music evolves s by technology.
If u listen to a punk song it ll sound almost as 10 years ago. same with rock & other genres.
Melody & rythm s really important but u cant say Technology doesnt matter.
If we talk about electronic music, new tech s really important. And talking about sounds... do u think dutch trance was invented without sounds? actually i ll say that all trance styles come from one: goa trance. Back to 1995 there was no dutch trance, not even trance. If we go further we ll find hip hop & techno back in the '80. And if u go back u ll find disco + all the '70 music.
If there was no tech, now we would b listening to african drum. So dont even say that VST,synth, doesnt matter...
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psy
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