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What do you think of the ratings here? [POLLS]

What do you think of the ratings here?
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a98
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Cooth wrote on 21 Mar. (19:00) :
In case you really mean it... think about it - if 4 is the lowest, it'll mean the same as 1 means now - so only a completely bad song would have to get it, hence -> it'd be used as rarely as 1-3 now. This way we can gradually gome to the ideal, 10-10 scale. :)


no what my point is, that even though the review scale is 1-10, most people are rating like it's 4-10... if you get a 5/10 you immidiatly think it's bad, even though it's half way of the scale
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Write new replySun 21 Mar. 2004 (19:18) [200.114.128.225] 22/38 quick link
I m new here but anyway i ll say what i think.
Usually i write what i think about the tune in musical terms. 1st of all we listen to mp3 files (128kbps which s an average quality and if we r lucky a 192kbps which s quite good). 2nd of all the speakers every person has. I remember i reviewed one of Virgil s songs with my speakers n wrote shit about the bass. Later i listened with headphones n it was another story.
Unless the mix s really bad, i prefer not to talk about it.

I think that those tunes that ve been rated 9 or 10 are the only ones i probably agree. I mean i also think they r really good tunes. Usually i m disappointed with 7/8 range. Here s where the problem starts.
I agree with Cooth. Maybe it would b better to rate 1/5 coz there s a bigger range. So it would really difficolt to see a 1 and a 3/4 in the same tune (i guess).
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Write new replySun 21 Mar. 2004 (19:20) [193.77.87.100] 23/38 quick link
a98 wrote on 21 Mar. (19:13) :

Cooth wrote on 21 Mar. (19:00) :
In case you really mean it... think about it - if 4 is the lowest, it'll mean the same as 1 means now - so only a completely bad song would have to get it, hence -> it'd be used as rarely as 1-3 now. This way we can gradually gome to the ideal, 10-10 scale. :)


no what my point is, that even though the review scale is 1-10, most people are rating like it's 4-10... if you get a 5/10 you immidiatly think it's bad, even though it's half way of the scale

I think all what we would gain with this is higher average rating which would at same time mean less acurate ratings since most of songs would be rated with 8 or more (now average rating is 7), so this would most probaly just make it harder to find those "great" songs out of all of the good rated songs.

I belive the system we have now is just fine, it offers 20 different ratings which should be enough. And we have bad review sytem which should sort out all the "non appropriate ratings".

Also i think ratings should stay part of reviews since as it was suggested that people could only review and only admins could rate this would simply mean whole rating system would depend on just some little group of people which surely could not cover all the range of genres and tastes, not to mention that we cant really belive there are people who would be preapered to listen all the songs and rate them.
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Write new replySun 21 Mar. 2004 (19:24) [80.248.106.5] 24/38 quick link
acecream wrote on 21 Mar. (19:20) :
I think all what we would gain with this is higher average rating which would at same time mean less acurate ratings since most of songs would be rated with 8 or more (now average rating is 7), so this would most probaly just make it harder to find those "great" songs out of all of the good rated songs.

I belive the system we have now is just fine, it offers 20 different ratings which should be enough. And we have bad review sytem which should sort out all the "non appropriate ratings".

Also i think ratings should stay part of reviews since as it was suggested that people could only review and only admins could rate this would simply mean whole rating system would depend on just some little group of people which surely could not cover all the range of genres and tastes, not to mention that we cant really belive there are people who would be preapered to listen all the songs and rate them.


well you can't really tell, i seriously doubt you me or anyone would start giving 8s or 9s to songs we normally have given 7, since the scale is kinda fucked up already. this would probably just mean that everytime someone is giving a 1 2 3 rate he would give 4 and a 5 to something that is better than those... etc
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Write new replySun 21 Mar. 2004 (19:28) [193.77.87.100] 25/38 quick link
a98 wrote on 21 Mar. (19:24) :
well you can't really tell, i seriously doubt you me or anyone would start giving 8s or 9s to songs we normally have given 7, since the scale is kinda fucked up already. this would probably just mean that everytime someone is giving a 1 2 3 rate he would give 4 and a 5 to something that is better than those... etc

Well we would have to change descriptions about ratings if we would shorten down the scale. 5 would not be average anymore instead 7 would be average so yes i still belive this would raise the ratings. :yes:
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acecream wrote on 21 Mar. (19:28) :
Well we would have to change descriptions about ratings if we would shorten down the scale. 5 would not be average anymore instead 7 would be average so yes i still belive this would raise the ratings. :yes:


well the problem is the whole word average, the average in the rating scale isn't nessasery average in ctg, since there might be more good songs than bad songs
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I think all my songs are seriously underrated :laugh:
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i dont have an issue with the scale - just the way people use it - and if its `not that important` then ditch it.

at the moment, it gives false impressions to anyone who does download based on scoring - i bet half the people that visit don't even read the review fgs - especially those bibles written by some people  ;)
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Write new replyMon 22 Mar. 2004 (7:49) [195.205.127.26] 30/38 quick link
a98 wrote on 21 Mar. (19:13) :

Cooth wrote on 21 Mar. (19:00) :
In case you really mean it... think about it - if 4 is the lowest, it'll mean the same as 1 means now - so only a completely bad song would have to get it, hence -> it'd be used as rarely as 1-3 now. This way we can gradually gome to the ideal, 10-10 scale. :)


no what my point is, that even though the review scale is 1-10, most people are rating like it's 4-10... if you get a 5/10 you immidiatly think it's bad, even though it's half way of the scale

Yes I know, but still the result would be more or less like I said.

Ratings 1-4 are a margin, we save them for really bad songs. Even if they, objectively speaking, should be used more often, they won't, mostly because there aren't THAT many songs we think are totally bad.

The fact people use practically the 5-10 scale doesn't mean it's not necessary to have the 1-4, just a some room for your elbows if you know what I mean  ;) . There are no objective reasons for forbidding 1-4 ratings just because they are used rarely. :)

About average: come on guys... :) we all should be aware by now, average is not average. I once suggested changing the 5-description from average to, eg. mediocre, but there was no response. There is no such thing as an average song. There's an average rating and it is counted mathematically from all ratings.


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