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Cooth
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Gopher wrote on 23 Sep. (22:05) :
Well, at the end of the day, the worst thing any of us can do is generalise. These guys are radicals - don't condemn a race or religion due to the severe actions of the few. Encourage increased defence spending - it's the only way we can make an effective, network-centric fighting force to take the battle to them. Not to mention that I might have an increased chance of getting a job.
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Always looking on the bright side, eh?  *whistle* (I know what we need! A whistling smiley  )
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MatthijsB
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I'm gonna piss off some people here... (I also haven't read anything in this topic actually)
sorry to see those guys have died, but I thouroughly believe it's bush' damn fault... He should never have invaded Iraq. It's a sad thing to see that just a few countries really dared to say no the faggot up in office.
I've been against this invasion from the start.
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acecream wrote on 23 Sep. (13:38) :
There are many bad things going on in the world constantly also worser then hostage situations and people are dieing everyday so i dont think anyone should feel bad couse of such news since then you can basicly feel bad all the time.
Rather concentrate on nice things. 
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Don't you think that this kinda represents that 'struisvogel' idea?
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obScene
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MatthijsB wrote on 24 Sep. (9:46) :
I'm gonna piss off some people here... (I also haven't read anything in this topic actually)
sorry to see those guys have died, but I thouroughly believe it's bush' damn fault... He should never have invaded Iraq. It's a sad thing to see that just a few countries really dared to say no the faggot up in office.
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Didn't piss me off, but you should compare the Bush approach to the approach of world leaders before.
Before: Terrorists hijacked planes, suicide bombed busses, blew up buildings (many embassies), tried to blow up the WTC, kidnapped and murdered people ( yes even before all this started ), bombed the USS Cole, and so on and so on. And in return for all these evil acts, the world did nothing but cry and bitch.
Now ( Bush ) : Fucking kill everyone who is a terrorist, thought of becoming a terrorist, or had lunch with a terrorist, take their money, rebuild their fucking poverty stricken countries and bring democracy to their people.
How is this not the right thing to do?
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RAVE-n
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obScene wrote on 24 Sep. (13:00) :
Now ( Bush ) : Fucking kill everyone who is a terrorist, thought of becoming a terrorist, or had lunch with a terrorist, take their money, rebuild their fucking poverty stricken countries and bring democracy to their people.
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Ofcourse... but he become a terrorist doing this himself. Now there is no doubt that, if done right, this can bring world to prosperity and well being, however, the question arrises IF it was done right in the first place and if not, HOW to do it right? Is war answered with more war really the way to go?
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I certainly believe that bush is doing the right thing internationally, but nationally, he's not doing the right thing imo.
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Gopher
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Bush is doing what he has to do to save his butt, both at home and abroad.
Going into Iraq, going all the way, should have been something that was done during the second persian gulf war. Doing it now under such convenient circumstances never really works. Whilst the idea of ousting Saddam was a good one, trying to link it to terrorism was a bit of a nono, and as far as I can tell that was America's way of focusing their channel of anger onto something. The problem is, with terrorism as it is, there isn't any single nation that is responsible now - it is the individual acts of people. And that makes it all the more harder to fight - like one of them said, It was easier in the cold war because you knew who your enemies were.
Is bush a terrorist? No. Again, the problems in the war were done by individual acts of (somewhat stupid) people (Abu Ghirab), and the deaths of innocents are a tragic reminder of the stark realities of the difficulties of war. As a western country, we have to fight within the rules of engagements we lay down for ourselves - the terrorists don't - they can use whatever means they can to maintain their survival, including using very sensitive buildings as staging posts (like a Mosque, for example) and kidnapping people to help their own cause.
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dreawlk
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Bush is mad, Berlusconi is mad, Saddam is mad like all the people thinks problem could be resolved with war... they doesn't wants to help their people they wants the glory so assert their power... bah!
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Gopher
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Whether this particular problem can be solved by an outright war is not my place to say, however I do believe that war should always be an option, should diplomacy fail; that is the crux of national defence, which, though some people think is a waste of money, I believe it is an integral part of a nation. (That and that over here, our Army double as firemen, search and rescue, police, a whole multitude of other jobs, depending on which union is on strike at a particular time).
That said, I do believe Berlusconi and Saddam are slightly crazy. Well, actually I think the former is just corrupt, whilst the latter is delusional.
As for Bush, and equally Blair, who knows? As long as Blair fixes up transport, health, education, local and national security if he stays in "office" for another two terms, I really couldn't care. And while he's at that, he can try and make the cost of living a bit cheaper too, damnit. |
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Kevin Zhan
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dreawlk wrote on 24 Sep. (16:31) :
Bush is mad, Berlusconi is mad, Saddam is mad like all the people thinks problem could be resolved with war... they doesn't wants to help their people they wants the glory so assert their power... bah!
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busy is sadly going to win the US election. so expect another 4 years of him being around. |
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