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Atlantis
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Write new replyWed 24 Nov. 2004 (4:38) [203.118.141.153] 1/13 quick link
Can anyone point me in the right direction for adding a slightly overdriven distorted sound on a mix-down, somewhat resembling the effect of clipping distortion? Surely there must be specialised tools for this rather than simply raising the volume so that clipping occurs? Something that actually uses some form of algorithm rather than simply throwing sample data away.

I've tried Amplitube, but all the presets more or less seem to be mono, and I'm afraid trying Izotope Trash will give the same results. Also, they're specifically designed to be virtual guitar amp modellers of course, and so I always get a 'boxy' amp sound rather than just the bit of destructive distortion I want.

Any suggestions?

EDIT: It has to be in DX format too.
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Write new replyWed 24 Nov. 2004 (5:42) [4.242.36.12] 2/13 quick link
Don't you just want a hard limiter? I don't use DX plugins but hard limiters aren't rare...
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Write new replyWed 24 Nov. 2004 (6:03) [203.118.141.153] 3/13 quick link
Yeah but hard limiters are designed to go against the effect of clipping distortion, and a good limiter shouldn't sound distorted at all when used within limits. Besides, over-limiting makes the mix sound 'wimpy' loud and just unpleasant to hear. I need a slightly warmer distortion than standard digital clipping distortion gives.
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Write new replyWed 24 Nov. 2004 (7:03) [24.13.68.18] 4/13 quick link
Atlantis wrote on 24 Nov. (6:03) :

Yeah but hard limiters are designed to go against the effect of clipping distortion, and a good limiter shouldn't sound distorted at all when used within limits. Besides, over-limiting makes the mix sound 'wimpy' loud and just unpleasant to hear. I need a slightly warmer distortion than standard digital clipping distortion gives.


http://www.kvr-vst.com/get.php?mode=results&st=adv&soft=e&type%5B%5D=65&f=0&fe=0&linux=1&mac=1&osx=1&win=1&free=1&com=1&un=1&sf=0&receptor=&sort=1&rpp=100

Most of these offer demos. Some are free altogether.

Come to think of it, the simple VST Plugin "Distortion" that comes with Steinberg's Wavelab would be good for you.... dunno how you would get it though......It has a nice warm sound when used sparingly.

Suppose you can search distortion.dll on a p2p network to find it.
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Write new replyWed 24 Nov. 2004 (8:27) [80.222.194.165] 5/13 quick link
I guess Psp Vintage Warmer could be the one you need  ;)

Other way is to load you wav to reason's nn19 and add screaming4 after it. Set it to 'Tape' mode and adjust speed and compression for your taste  ;)
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Write new replyWed 24 Nov. 2004 (8:56) [24.13.68.18] 6/13 quick link
Atlantis wrote on 24 Nov. (4:38) :

Can anyone point me in the right direction for adding a slightly overdriven distorted sound on a mix-down, somewhat resembling the effect of clipping distortion? Surely there must be specialised tools for this rather than simply raising the volume so that clipping occurs? Something that actually uses some form of algorithm rather than simply throwing sample data away.

I've tried Amplitube, but all the presets more or less seem to be mono, and I'm afraid trying Izotope Trash will give the same results. Also, they're specifically designed to be virtual guitar amp modellers of course, and so I always get a 'boxy' amp sound rather than just the bit of destructive distortion I want.

Any suggestions?

EDIT: It has to be in DX format too.
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Are you working on void pointer's new d&b track by chance?

:-)...I guess you want to recreate what he did by hasty accident.
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Write new replyWed 24 Nov. 2004 (12:49) [203.118.141.237] 7/13 quick link
sonus wrote on 24 Nov. (7:03) :

Atlantis wrote on 24 Nov. (6:03) :

Yeah but hard limiters are designed to go against the effect of clipping distortion, and a good limiter shouldn't sound distorted at all when used within limits. Besides, over-limiting makes the mix sound 'wimpy' loud and just unpleasant to hear. I need a slightly warmer distortion than standard digital clipping distortion gives.


http://www.kvr-vst.com/...

Most of these offer demos. Some are free altogether.

Come to think of it, the simple VST Plugin "Distortion" that comes with Steinberg's Wavelab would be good for you.... dunno how you would get it though......It has a nice warm sound when used sparingly.

Suppose you can search distortion.dll on a p2p network to find it.


Odd, I looked at K-v-R already but all I got was two search results. Seems I must've done something wrong.

Will have a look around, although most of those would be VSTs I guess.
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Write new replyWed 24 Nov. 2004 (13:07) [203.118.141.237] 8/13 quick link
sonus wrote on 24 Nov. (8:56) :

Atlantis wrote on 24 Nov. (4:38) :

Can anyone point me in the right direction for adding a slightly overdriven distorted sound on a mix-down, somewhat resembling the effect of clipping distortion? Surely there must be specialised tools for this rather than simply raising the volume so that clipping occurs? Something that actually uses some form of algorithm rather than simply throwing sample data away.

I've tried Amplitube, but all the presets more or less seem to be mono, and I'm afraid trying Izotope Trash will give the same results. Also, they're specifically designed to be virtual guitar amp modellers of course, and so I always get a 'boxy' amp sound rather than just the bit of destructive distortion I want.

Any suggestions?

EDIT: It has to be in DX format too.
Atlantis [Atlantean Records .: extant music beyond existence]

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Are you working on void pointer's new d&b track by chance?

:-)...I guess you want to recreate what he did by hasty accident.


Yeah, I would never purposely create a destructive sound as this.  ;) But the master sounds a bit too clean so we need a little distortion.
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Write new replyWed 24 Nov. 2004 (14:05) [203.118.141.237] 9/13 quick link
Thanks for your suggestion too, Randor. I remember trying PSP years ago but wasn't all that impressed. But, I've given Trash a try now and it's great so far. I think I might stick to this one.

And I can't really do that last option because it has to be a DX effect that I can use in Sound Forge by inserting it into the master plug-in chain, before the limiter. I wouldn't want to interrupt the chain preset part way through.
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Write new replyWed 24 Nov. 2004 (14:23) [80.222.194.165] 10/13 quick link
Check Fxpansion's VST to DX adapter  ;) Cooledit hasn't vst support either but all vst fx work thru this adapter :)
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