Max Fenton
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Do you think that relative ease of producing music now (ie more accessible, all software etc) has had a negative or positive effect on the music scene as a whole?
Personally speaking I think it's quite exciting when I come across a good producer on this site, but there's, let's be honest, a load of rubbish to sift through too, because every man and his dog are producing music, when I think really a lot of people don't have much musical talent, just a program that makes music.
So do you think the (relative) ease of producing a song is a good thing or bad thing for the music scene?
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Espen
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Max Fenton wrote on 26 Feb. (17:41) :
Do you think that relative ease of producing music now (ie more accessible, all software etc) has had a negative or positive effect on the music scene as a whole?
Personally speaking I think it's quite exciting when I come across a good producer on this site, but there's, let's be honest, a load of rubbish to sift through too, because every man and his dog are producing music, when I think really a lot of people don't have much musical talent, just a program that makes music.
So do you think the (relative) ease of producing a song is a good thing or bad thing for the music scene?
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Theres no ease in producing music... Not at all. And that more and more start to produce, even if their good or not, is a great thing if it makes them happy.
Everybody should do what they like...
But the ease yout talking about, tho i wouldnt call it ease, is only a good thing. The more things you can use, and the more options you have, to create your music can only make it better. No doubt...
-Media is the root too all evil.
Espen S
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Zepsi
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Max Fenton wrote on 26 Feb. (17:41) :
Do you think that relative ease of producing music now (ie more accessible, all software etc) has had a negative or positive effect on the music scene as a whole?
Personally speaking I think it's quite exciting when I come across a good producer on this site, but there's, let's be honest, a load of rubbish to sift through too, because every man and his dog are producing music, when I think really a lot of people don't have much musical talent, just a program that makes music.
So do you think the (relative) ease of producing a song is a good thing or bad thing for the music scene?
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Since I'm just another person amongst everyone and his dog, I certainly think it's a good thing that music software is easily accessible. Impulse Tracker was my door into music making after all.
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Cooth
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What's talent anyway...? Only thing that matters is whether you have the will to create and express things through this form of art, and if so, if you're patient enough to bring it to a decent level. Talent is merely an addition to practice, one that may lead you even higher.
The ease of producing you're talking about is clearly a very good thing, because we all have the possibility to try the music thing, develop a hobby or maybe achieve more serious goals.
When I was younger, I dreamed about making music, but couldn't do it - couldn't afford a computer, a synth, a guitar (never had a good ear so nobody would give me one, hehe) or anything. So today, I don't give a crap if I do or do not have enough talent to be worthy of making music - music's for everyone. 
I would put a tax on all people who post to forums.
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Zepsi
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Espen S wrote on 26 Feb. (18:30) :
The more things you can use, and the more options you have, to create your music can only make it better. No doubt...
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The thing with fantastic-sounding easy-to-use software is that it's easier for beginners to impress themselves than it was before. Mock up a rhythm, play two chords using that slick evolving pad preset from your favourite soft synth, squeeze out a funky bassline, and you just might have something that is pleasant to listen to, but that lacks many musical qualities apart from the pleasantness. I believe that can corrupt the learning curve for some people. For experienced users it's only a good thing though.
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Espen
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Zepsi wrote on 26 Feb. (18:44) :
Espen S wrote on 26 Feb. (18:30) :
The more things you can use, and the more options you have, to create your music can only make it better. No doubt...
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The biggest problem with fantastic-sounding easy-to-use software is that it's easier for beginners to impress themselves than it was before. Mock up a rhythm, play two chords using that slick evolving pad preset from your favourite soft synth, squeeze out a funky bassline, and you just might have something that is pleasant to listen to, but that lacks many musical qualities apart from the pleasantness. I believe that can corrupt the learning curve for some people. For experienced users it's only a good thing though.
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yes... but if the artist enjoy what he is doing, why shouldnt he do it?
Imo there shouldnt be a restriction that says only good artist should be allowed to use powerfull tools...
-Media is the root too all evil.
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Cooth
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Yeah, maybe you're right, Zepsi. But on the other hand, I really loved my first FT2 songs when I'd just made them. What I'm aiming at is, it's always easy to impress yourself when you're a beginner.  After my first tracking attempts I was like "Oh shit, I can make a song, I can make a song, it's so great" I may be wrong about it, but even if you start with high quality stuff, after a while you notice that there can be much more to your music than 2 chords repeated all over 5 mins of the same beat. If you don't give up somewhere on the way, you keep becoming better, in your own direction. I guess.
I would put a tax on all people who post to forums.
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Zepsi
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Espen S wrote on 26 Feb. (18:50) :
Zepsi wrote on 26 Feb. (18:44) :
Espen S wrote on 26 Feb. (18:30) :
The more things you can use, and the more options you have, to create your music can only make it better. No doubt...
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The biggest problem with fantastic-sounding easy-to-use software is that it's easier for beginners to impress themselves than it was before. Mock up a rhythm, play two chords using that slick evolving pad preset from your favourite soft synth, squeeze out a funky bassline, and you just might have something that is pleasant to listen to, but that lacks many musical qualities apart from the pleasantness. I believe that can corrupt the learning curve for some people. For experienced users it's only a good thing though.
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yes... but if the artist enjoy what he is doing, why shouldnt he do it?
Imo there shouldnt be a restriction that says only good artist should be allowed to use powerfull tools...
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No, of course not. I was just saying that I think for some people it might pay off more if they have to use more basic tools when they start out.
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Zepsi
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Cooth wrote on 26 Feb. (18:53) :
Yeah, maybe you're right, Zepsi. But on the other hand, I really loved my first FT2 songs when I'd just made them. What I'm aiming at is, it's always easy to impress yourself when you're a beginner. After my first tracking attempts I was like "Oh shit, I can make a song, I can make a song, it's so great" I may be wrong about it, but even if you start with high quality stuff, after a while you notice that there can be much more to your music than 2 chords repeated all over 5 mins of the same beat. If you don't give up somewhere on the way, you keep becoming better, in your own direction. I guess.
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You know, I still love some of my first IT songs (and yes, they are bad).
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Cooth
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Zepsi wrote on 26 Feb. (18:58) :
You know, I still love some of my first IT songs (and yes, they are bad).
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Hehe, same here, though in my case it's just the nostalgy thing
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