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1up
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We'll all been there. Produced a song that kicks ass to oneself, but to the general listener it's weak at best. What I mean specificially is the sound. Or the lack of it. Chiptune artists know of this for sure. Classical composers also. Probably a lot more genres too.
When you have a song that is really great but lack the power of a modern monster hit pop song it often makes the song uninteresting and genreally bad for the general listener. At least that is my impression. It's like the impact is greater with a song with a fatter sound. True enough, but why can't people take easy sounding music seriously? It's like soft sounding music equals bad music. That is music to stay away from. Just like people chose to walk on the other side of the street when meeting a bum. People don't want to be associated with it!
Perhaps it's about style and status. You want to listen to music that 'makes' you feel in style and makes an impression of hightening your social status?
The sad fact still remain that if the music isn't loud and in-your-face you won't get respected and taken seriously. That feels like a sad prospect.
Do you agree? What have your friends said about your music? Have they shrugged it away like crap? What does it take to be taken seriously?
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purefunk
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Registered: 19.May.04 |
If you talking about 'general' (general=mainstream audience), then no, we are not taken seriously.
What you have to remember is...
The mainstream public know very little to nothing of music on the internet. It pretty much defined by audiofiles and musicians. Record labels and Dj's are getting more into it.
But over all what we do is not mainstream. If it were, we'd all be stars and on the radio/TV.
If 'serious' music is defined by the mainstream, we not even close.
I (myself) and most of the artist on the internet take their music seriously.
It really all depends on what 'you' want to do with 'your' music. If you want to be 'taken seriously' by the 'general listener', then you make what moves them and yourself.
If it was an open-hand slap, it was intentional.
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1up
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obScene
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I can only speak for myself about what I find interesting... or what I take seriously:
First thing I look for is sounscape. The sound has to be unique or interesting. If the first thing I hear is a kick, over and over... I don't give a shit anymore. If I hear a string sample held out for a long time... or even a simple string chord... with no dyamics, no depth... I don't care. The sound has to be something I haven't heard before... or at least something GOOD I have heard before. If I can reach over on the keyboard and recreate the same thing in less than 10 seconds... it apparently sucks.
Second... I hate to hear chords that are either A: typical or B: predictable. If the next chord I hear after Am is CM ... I will press stop... unless there is something unique or unusualy. If it's simple strings... I am not interested.
If your going to start out with a lead melody... it better be good. Again atmosphere is important. If its a piano, plucking one note at a time... with no ambience at all... I dont care anymore. There HAS to be something to give the sound depth. And when the chord progress begins... it has to do something unique to the melody, and if its predictable at all... then I wont listen.
I guess I have heard a lot of good artists here at CTG.. and now I expect a lot  But really. the importance to me is all about the originality and uniqeness.
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Nygen Dale
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Registered: 21.Jun.03 |
I know what you mean but as Purefunk said I don't think it's such a big problem around here but rather if you want to go further towards "general listeners". I think the best proof is Tawan - Loner  It's got a very soft sound, an RMS volume of -19.00db and the stats speak for themselves 
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mrsix
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obScene wrote on 12 May. (19:27) :
I can only speak for myself about what I find interesting... or what I take seriously:
First thing I look for is sounscape. The sound has to be unique or interesting. If the first thing I hear is a kick, over and over... I don't give a shit anymore. If I hear a string sample held out for a long time... or even a simple string chord... with no dyamics, no depth... I don't care. The sound has to be something I haven't heard before... or at least something GOOD I have heard before. If I can reach over on the keyboard and recreate the same thing in less than 10 seconds... it apparently sucks.
Second... I hate to hear chords that are either A: typical or B: predictable. If the next chord I hear after Am is CM ... I will press stop... unless there is something unique or unusualy. If it's simple strings... I am not interested.
If your going to start out with a lead melody... it better be good. Again atmosphere is important. If its a piano, plucking one note at a time... with no ambience at all... I dont care anymore. There HAS to be something to give the sound depth. And when the chord progress begins... it has to do something unique to the melody, and if its predictable at all... then I wont listen.
I guess I have heard a lot of good artists here at CTG.. and now I expect a lot But really. the importance to me is all about the originality and uniqeness.
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As above, spot on.. couldnt agree more... i was even picking me nose when i read it  |
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Analysis
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Registered: 16.Mar.03 |
obScene wrote on 12 May. (19:27) :
A: typical or B: predictable. If the next chord I hear after Am is CM ... |
It's quite easy to go with this. I mean, make an original song is easy. How to make it good is something else 
I like typical synth's and predictable sounds though, so we differ in that aspect.
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Louigi Verona
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Registered: 22.Aug.03 |
1up: why do you want to be respected by the general listener in the first place? I think it takes more skill to get respected here
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Kcirr3d
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Registered: 01.Feb.05 |
Louigi Verona wrote on 13 May. (5:19) :
1up: why do you want to be respected by the general listener in the first place? I think it takes more skill to get respected here
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that's not true..
besides the general listener is willing to pay money for the music.. so i understand why 1up (me too) wants to know the tricks of how to get signed/"respected".. infact it is all about making dang good music... having a lot of luck, patience, knowledge of music theory (engeneering, etc) and also having enough money to buy and use the best equipment.
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Gopher
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Well, it depends on who you're writing for.
If you want to make money out of this stuff, you're either going to have to be 1337, or whore your ideals to what is "pop".
If you're writing for yourself, then it's up to you to satisfy your own boundaries of knowledge and ability, and to hell with the rest.
I think the whole "loud and in your face" thing is very much a common theme between young adults and teenagers. When they get a bit older, realise they have to get a job and that party time is over, they probably realise that dance et al isn't all that there is. I know plenty of people with an appreciation of wider genres (in the most unexpected places too).
My opinion? To hell with everyone else. Unless you want to become rich and famous from music, you think of satisfying yourself first. If everyone else happens to like it, then thats a bonus. If you want to be taken seriously, it has to sound the part. For me, thats not hard; a bit of cash here and there and I have some nice samples that sound vaguely realistic, which, with the right perfectionist attitude is acceptable. For you guys... well, you'll have to find that barrier yourself.
Don't try and ingratiate the public. They're an ungrateful lot. ;o)
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