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Gopher
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Cooth wrote on 01 Jun. (8:20) :
Novus wrote on 01 Jun. (6:44) :
Britney is in that 0.001%. 
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Isn't it amazing, how those mythical "teens" make Britney and other stars popular? It's like: you can't see gravity, but it works! |
"What the eyes don't see, the heart doesn't grieve over."
Or something like that.
Then again, not all teens are capable of understanding gravity...
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Kcirr3d
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Gopher wrote on 01 Jun. (12:49) :
Cooth wrote on 01 Jun. (8:20) :
Novus wrote on 01 Jun. (6:44) :
Britney is in that 0.001%.
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Isn't it amazing, how those mythical "teens" make Britney and other stars popular? It's like: you can't see gravity, but it works! |
"What the eyes don't see, the heart doesn't grieve over."
Or something like that.
Then again, not all teens are capable of understanding gravity...
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it's funny, but also so wrong to make fun of her...
Being succesfull like B.Spears, Usher, Justin Timberlake etc thats a different story. Everybody is always dying to talk about how much these ppl suck and have no talent.. Well I think their all great, cuz they achieve great things only few ppl on this earth can achieve. How to become as succesfull as these guys?
Well.. it helps:
being drop dead gorgeous and sexy appealing to many ppl... nobody wants to see a 
having talent (not at sequencing music but dancing, entertaining, choreography, singing wich is 100 times harder than sitting behind a laptop with reason3.0 running )
working really hard (example: a worldtour has more than 100 ppl involved but it's all about you doint the entertainment ppl pay their €€€ for)
Being charismatic (if 100.000 ppl are screaming their lungs out at an event just too get a glimpse of you.. well.. you could call it being a charismatic person. ghehe)
etc etc
respect to all musicans 
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Louigi Verona
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agree. I also don't like thinking that britney or whatever pop artist sucks. it is just a way to boost your ego - we are the underground and they are pops! Pff!
now I don't think that way. I think pop artists themselves are hardworkers. I respect them, even if i don't like the music.
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Cooth
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Kcirr3d wrote on 03 Jun. (0:46) :
it's funny, but also so wrong to make fun of her...
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Oh. It's better to make fun of the at school. 
If you think my remark was making fun of Britney, then you may have got it wrong.
Being succesfull like B.Spears, Usher, Justin Timberlake etc thats a different story. Everybody is always dying to talk about how much these ppl suck and have no talent..
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I never EVER said Britney had no talent.
Well I think their all great, cuz they achieve great things only few ppl on this earth can achieve. How to become as succesfull as these guys?
Well.. it helps:
being drop dead gorgeous and sexy appealing to many ppl... nobody wants to see a
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So you ARE making fun of ?
Don't take this too seriously.
having talent (not at sequencing music but dancing, entertaining, choreography, singing wich is 100 times harder than sitting behind a laptop with reason3.0 running )
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Sitting behind a laptop is easy, but you won't make good music just by sitting.
Having talents lets you develop in a certain direction. There is no objective way to find out which of those directions is "easier".
working really hard (example: a worldtour has more than 100 ppl involved but it's all about you doint the entertainment ppl pay their €€€ for)
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Yep, working hard and knowing what you want and aim for before it's too late is a good thing, and Britney did that, apparently. I respect that, even though I don't necessarily have to respect her as a person - I mean, I simply don't know anything about her. As a result, she's a chick from MTV I don't care much about.
Being charismatic (if 100.000 ppl are screaming their lungs out at an event just too get a glimpse of you.. well.. you could call it being a charismatic person. ghehe)
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Yeah, but being charismatic isn't really a big value on itself (Hitler and Stalin were charismatic too)
It's the way you use your talents, not the talents themselves, that give you REAL value. |
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Gopher
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Cooth wrote on 03 Jun. (7:39) :
Oh. It's better to make fun of the at school.
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:*(
ahehehe
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umal
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Louigi Verona wrote on 03 Jun. (7:07) :
[...] I think pop artists themselves are hardworkers. I respect them, even if i don't like the music.
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Yah, I agree 104%! 
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Project X43
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But don't most (and I say 95%) of pop "artists" start out as just performers? For Christ Sakes, look at silly American Idol...the search for the next "Pop Star/Idol". Those contestants don't ever "perform" their own music. So I think we should stop calling them "artists" until they actually create something on their own other than greed and vanity with their clothes and perfumes.
I also don't think you should have to change your style to be taken seriously. You need to find your target audience. As a DNB/Jungle DJ, I can't get a gig in this city...because 99% of the club population wants to hear Hip Hop. Now out of a million people, that 1% that would like to hear Jungle still makes 10,000 people...I'm sorry I'd die to play for 10,000 people.
I tried this and it worked...Make 100 copies of a CD with 8 songs on it. Go out to a shopping center or clubs and "TALK TO PEOPLE", FIND that market cuz more than likely it's not going to find you. Sell CDs for 5 bucks a piece. Drunk people will part with their money for music. Put contact info on the CD. If they like it, they'll call you back. 10 CD's sold to drunk people @ $5 each = $50. Enough to party on for the night maybe? Make a mailing list. F*$K being sold all over the world, you gotta crawl before you can walk. Besides, it might be hard work to do everything yourself, but you'll learn things as you go. If and when you do get signed and have billboards with your face all over them and TV commercials...at least you know that you didn't NEED someone else to start you off. You can say you did it yourself and now you're just having someone else pick up the bill.
As a note in reply to the question if someone is still an artist after they sell their music... What if someone hears your music that you made just because you like to do it and wants to purchase it? Does that strip you of your title of being an artist? Personally, I don't think so. If you make your music, never have the intent to sell it, and make it because you really truly LOVE your music and what you do, you're always going to be an "artist". I think you lose the ability to call yourself an artist when you lose sight of who and where you are and why you were making music in the first place. When you start looking at it as a career and stop looking at it as a passion or love of the things you create. What seperates musicians and artists from performers is that artists create with passion, feeling and soul...they don't just play someone elses feelings. What good is singing a love song that someone else wrote if you've never been in love or have never been loved?
Anyways, I'm new here. Thanks for having me! I look forward to learning much more about the music that I love.
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Kcirr3d
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DJ Novator wrote on 23 Jun. (16:33) :
But don't most (and I say 95%) of pop "artists" start out as just performers? For Christ Sakes, look at silly American Idol...the search for the next "Pop Star/Idol". Those contestants don't ever "perform" their own music. So I think we should stop calling them "artists" until they actually create something on their own other than greed and vanity with their clothes and perfumes.
I also don't think you should have to change your style to be taken seriously. You need to find your target audience. As a DNB/Jungle DJ, I can't get a gig in this city...because 99% of the club population wants to hear Hip Hop. Now out of a million people, that 1% that would like to hear Jungle still makes 10,000 people...I'm sorry I'd die to play for 10,000 people.
I tried this and it worked...Make 100 copies of a CD with 8 songs on it. Go out to a shopping center or clubs and "TALK TO PEOPLE", FIND that market cuz more than likely it's not going to find you. Sell CDs for 5 bucks a piece. Drunk people will part with their money for music. Put contact info on the CD. If they like it, they'll call you back. 10 CD's sold to drunk people @ $5 each = $50. Enough to party on for the night maybe? Make a mailing list. F*$K being sold all over the world, you gotta crawl before you can walk. Besides, it might be hard work to do everything yourself, but you'll learn things as you go. If and when you do get signed and have billboards with your face all over them and TV commercials...at least you know that you didn't NEED someone else to start you off. You can say you did it yourself and now you're just having someone else pick up the bill.
As a note in reply to the question if someone is still an artist after they sell their music... What if someone hears your music that you made just because you like to do it and wants to purchase it? Does that strip you of your title of being an artist? Personally, I don't think so. If you make your music, never have the intent to sell it, and make it because you really truly LOVE your music and what you do, you're always going to be an "artist". I think you lose the ability to call yourself an artist when you lose sight of who and where you are and why you were making music in the first place. When you start looking at it as a career and stop looking at it as a passion or love of the things you create. What seperates musicians and artists from performers is that artists create with passion, feeling and soul...they don't just play someone elses feelings. What good is singing a love song that someone else wrote if you've never been in love or have never been loved?
Anyways, I'm new here. Thanks for having me! I look forward to learning much more about the music that I love.
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Sweetness thanks for sharing your thoughts and experiences. Burning 100 cd's now. 
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obScene wrote on 12 May. (19:27) :
Second... I hate to hear chords that are either A: typical or B: predictable. If the next chord I hear after Am is CM ... I will press stop... unless there is something unique or unusualy. If it's simple strings... I am not interested.
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This is just about the lamest thing I have ever read. Give it a rest bud. Interesting music can be the most simple, one chord vamp with a 3 note melody or it can be the most intricate, clever, complicated and original sound there ever was.. It all boils down to this: Do I want to hear it again? or Does it make me think? or Does it make me not think? or Is it captivating? or ..... I've heard people say some pretty dumb things - "I only listen to the lyrics, I don't pay much attention to the music" "G is my favorite chord" "If it has a good beat, I like it" and now, "If the next chord I hear after Am is Cm.. I will press stop. (unless there is something unique or otherwise great/excellent/unusual, etc..) Like saying, "If I bite into a sandwich and it tastes bad, I'll throw it away, unless it tastes good."
sheesh.
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