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Compressing the master twice??? [MUSIC]
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bennybonez
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Write new replyMon 18 Jul. 2005 (0:09) [71.241.149.201] 1/4 quick link
Computermusic.co.uk tells me to do this....

In order

Use the multiband comp to get the track sounding tight...
Eq if needed
Use a gentle Opto comp to give the track a more in your face feel
then Limit it....

What are your thoughts on this advice?

http://computermusic.co.uk/tutorial/mastering/mastering4.asp
check it out...
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xa
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Write new replyMon 18 Jul. 2005 (4:44) [4.242.33.139] 2/4 quick link
Depends on the track, Daft Punk has used this trick I know. I'd only do it if there was particular feel I was shooting for though. For example if you want the whole track to pump along with the kick some careful compression in this manner might be appropriate, though in most tracks it would just be downright annoying... In general I imagine it would be better to not do that. I would suggest just EQing first and then multiband compressing it.
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Write new replyMon 18 Jul. 2005 (8:20) [203.118.142.77] 3/4 quick link
First rule in music: There are no rules.  ;)

As much as I dislike to believe this, instead working by means of a structured and planned out workflow, using formulae that work right every time, in most cases this simply is the ultimate truth. If you want to compress the master twice, go right ahead. I, however, probably wouldn't like the resulting sound as much as if it would've been compressed only once, but it can have its advantages too.

Generally, the only reason in which I can see the CM approach favourable is if you hadn't used a lot of mix compression (i.e. compression on the mix elements) and so wanted the initial multiband compressor to act as a 'glueing' agent to draw the instruments together, with the opto compressor serving more as adding character to the sound. Still, in that case, I would EQ the mixdown first to achieve the right tonal balance, then multiband compress it to tighten the sound, finally followed by subtle use of an opto compressor (e.g. Waves RComp). You could also use this final compressor artistically, adding a pumping and breathing quality to the sound, for instance (although I think the Waves C1 might work better for this). It's all about what you're trying to achieve really and what material you're working with.
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Write new replyMon 18 Jul. 2005 (12:45) [62.194.122.196] 4/4 quick link
Computermusic.co.uk tells me to do this....

arent you the smartest!

Just Do:

whatever works for the track..
whatever sounds the way you like it..
write down the steps you made while mastering, for you might want to fix that lame track atfer you received low ratings again.

Don't Do:

anything other people say.. they all pretend to know what they are doing.
the same mastering proces on all your tracks.
things by the book of rules of mastering.. because there are no rules about mastering.. just ask the police they'll tell you there are no damn rules here. :upset:
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