Meltic
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It's strange and I can't really figure out why my winamp equalizes wav files and mp3 files diffrently. Without the equlizer on the sound is exactly thesame! But when I activate the equalizer and with the settings I use to 2 exact same songs one in wav and one in mp3 the sounds is totally different. It's just as the equalizer doesn't work right.
You guys got any theorys or facts that would help me understand this fenomena  
This may not be the most important topic but It's just that I've been thinking about this much latly and I need to get it out of my head
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- Meltic
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FeralCode
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Maybe because mp3 is already compressed. Or the sampling rate you use is different. Or it is a bug. Or your eq does not like mp3s... hm, maybe just that song.
Well, I dont know. Win is a mystery.  |
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MyztiQue
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Doriath wrote on 23 May. (7:02) :
Maybe because mp3 is already compressed. Or the sampling rate you use is different. Or it is a bug. Or your eq does not like mp3s... hm, maybe just that song.
Well, I dont know. Win is a mystery. |
YES mp3 is already compressed, and YES the sampling rate between mp3 and wav is different, and YES-YES-YES (!) winamp EQ sucks!
Meltic: I think you should throw that EQ away and never use it again. If you desperately want to eq the sound, do it on your 'real amp' instead. That's my suggestion  |
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Atlantis
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MyztiQue wrote on 23 May. (8:45) :
Doriath wrote on 23 May. (7:02) :
Maybe because mp3 is already compressed. Or the sampling rate you use is different. Or it is a bug. Or your eq does not like mp3s... hm, maybe just that song.
Well, I dont know. Win is a mystery. |
YES mp3 is already compressed, and YES the sampling rate between mp3 and wav is different, and YES-YES-YES (!) winamp EQ sucks!
Meltic: I think you should throw that EQ away and never use it again. If you desperately want to eq the sound, do it on your 'real amp' instead. That's my suggestion |
What's wrong with Winamp's EQ? I personally don't use it but in the past I've never had any problems with it. Meltic, what kbps rate is your mp3? Seriously, if it's 192 or higher you shouldn't really hear any audible differences on a decent set of hi-fi speakers (presuming that's what you're using). What mp3s do is that any frequencies above 15kHz are removed (using a rather steep high-cut actually). This can be audible if you have a good pair of monitors, headphones, ears; or all three. But really, there shouldn't be a significant difference unless you're comparing your wave against a 128kbps or lower mp3. |
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Szartd
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Also keep i min that winamp mus ENCODE it also to let u hear it , so encoding wav and encoding mp3 is quite different ...
Just see it like playing a avi or mpg file in windows media .
And yes winamp sucks , bigtime , just use some good tool .
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MatthijsB
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Without the equlizer on the sound is exactly thesame! |
Maybe because mp3 is already compressed. Or the sampling rate you use is different. Or it is a bug. Or your eq does not like mp3s... hm, maybe just that song.
Well, I dont know. Win is a mystery. |
WAV and MP3 sounds the same when no equalizer is involved, that's what meltic said. An equalizer is designed to process the sound after it's decoded, as long as sound is the same (no audible difference as atlantis said) there should be no way that there's difference at all, therefore this could just simply be a bug or a huge matter of bad coding add the nullsoft team...
pretty weird actually that equalizer responds different to mp3 and wav, because equalizing should happen seperately from the decoding of those files.
And because compression of the mp3 file should not have any effect on an equalizer as the sound is decoded, and afterwards processed by the equalizer.
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Szartd
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MatthijsB wrote on 24 May. (17:08) :
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Without the equlizer on the sound is exactly thesame! |
Maybe because mp3 is already compressed. Or the sampling rate you use is different. Or it is a bug. Or your eq does not like mp3s... hm, maybe just that song.
Well, I dont know. Win is a mystery. |
WAV and MP3 sounds the same when no equalizer is involved, that's what meltic said. An equalizer is designed to process the sound after it's decoded, as long as sound is the same (no audible difference as atlantis said) there should be no way that there's difference at all, therefore this could just simply be a bug or a huge matter of bad coding add the nullsoft team...
pretty weird actually that equalizer responds different to mp3 and wav, because equalizing should happen seperately from the decoding of those files.
And because compression of the mp3 file should not have any effect on an equalizer as the sound is decoded, and afterwards processed by the equalizer.
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Ok , again I'll try to explain it :
A wav uses an other "process" then an mp3 when it is played .
An other "process" to make it able to hear for you.
The equalizer works different because of that in WINAMP .
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MatthijsB
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could be true, very likely to be true actually but what i am telling is the usual way it should happen.
obviously this isn't the case because if that was true the mp3 and wav should sound the same when equalizer is enabled. WINAMP=BAD  |
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acecream
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MatthijsB wrote on 24 May. (23:26) :
could be true, very likely to be true actually but what i am telling is the usual way it should happen.
obviously this isn't the case because if that was true the mp3 and wav should sound the same when equalizer is enabled. WINAMP=BAD |
yeah it should sound the same if the playback would work similar for wav and mp3 but i guess in winamp that isnt so...
i think easiest way to understand this is to imagine that equalizer doesnt really hear the sound it just changes the data..those 1s and 0s so since wav isnt really mp3 those 1 and 0 must change differently and there the difference pops up
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Szartd
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MatthijsB wrote on 24 May. (23:26) :
could be true, very likely to be true actually but what i am telling is the usual way it should happen.
obviously this isn't the case because if that was true the mp3 and wav should sound the same when equalizer is enabled. WINAMP=BAD |
no because , it would not , because wav and mp3 is not ENCODED the same .
So the equalizer works differentlt on them . easy as that !
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