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EE Jeffrey
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Atlantis wrote on 09 Feb. (13:55) :
Funny, I used to use ACID, but have no idea what you mean.  |
It semi-bypasses the effect chain if the output of the chain becomes a little too aggresive making the master vu meters go into red if it didn't bypass, at least that is what it does the way I use it. Something to do with the volume sliders on the effectchain.
This way it smoothens out any aggresive EQ settings when the soundtrack switches color or throws in some effect that makes use of bands you pushed the sound at. It works better for me then using aggresive limiters  (in the past I used this effect to perform some sort of compression/limiting, when I didn't had any compression plugin at first in good old ACID1.0)
Having the sound split over more effect chains keeps this behaviour under control, so if I have for example a loud high pitched sound over my high bands, making ACID bypass EQ settings there, it wouldn't screw up my EQ / Compression work on the bass stuff, which is running over a different chain.
Atlantis wrote on 09 Feb. (13:55) :
Well, it's all down to preference of course, but a multiband compressor really is one of the most powerful tools you can have.  |
Yup I can see that. That's why I'm going to try and use it more Many thanks for pointing it out  |
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Nynne
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Hm, guess its out of topic, but just wondering something.
Allthough I don't feel theres any "preset" master-eq'ing (and I believe in difference in tunes), I've noticed I've done lots of mastering that seems pretty much alike. Almost like a preset. Now I don't remember the freq-ranges as I haven't mastered for a while.
freqs lower than 100hz (not 100% sure if I remember ) I minimize, or mute. Than a small boost at the "good" bass freqs, then a lowering of the muddy bass-freqs (dont remember the freqs). Almost nothing else. Just a small boost around 15khz, to get a polished feel to it. Is that a good way of doing it? As the "mastering-freaks" are speaking? ^_^ |
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MatthijsB
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well cutting bass from 100hz would be plain stupid... 20-50hz are more common I personally cut bass from about 30hz in most cases. I do this in the mixing stage already actually. I never really master my tracks... Just throw em through a multiband compressor to spice it up before I send it out. After that the label gets the raw mixdowns or if they prefer my own masters...
Boosting 15K could help, I believe the 'sparkle' which makes the pro tracks sound pro is situated somewhere near that frequency However too harsh makes it end up very bright and hard to listen to for longer periods of time. I don't use this 15k boost though.
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Nynne
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ah, sorry, 100hz was way too high 
when you said it, I remembered, it's 0-40hz I nearly mute |
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n3p5u5
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I think I haven't the faintest idea what "Q" is.
"I call architecture Frozen Music" - Goethe
"I hate music, it's got too many notes" - the Replacements
"Composers are always too quiet on their days off" - Mystic Ark
"Everything has been done, but not by me. Not yet." - Anonymous
"Let thy instrument tell us the thoughts of thy heart that words cannot express." - Chrono Cross
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Atlantis
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Nynne wrote on 09 Feb. (16:54) :
Is that a good way of doing it? As the "mastering-freaks" are speaking? ^_^ |
Well, that's what I'm (we're) trying to find out.
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freqs lower than 100hz (not 100% sure if I remember ) I minimize, or mute. Than a small boost at the "good" bass freqs, then a lowering of the muddy bass-freqs (dont remember the freqs). Almost nothing else. Just a small boost around 15khz, to get a polished feel to it. |
I think what this topic (and your post) will boil down to is that there are no rules. If you rely on presets though, you're only going to match the 'general' mix, and probably miss the mark most of the time. Fintuning the frequencies and Q values would then bring out the best in the sound. Plus, of course not every track will need its upper bass frequencies reduced and 15 kHz boosted, which I'd be very careful about anyway. As Matthijs said, overboosting the extreme treble can make the sound fatiguing.
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Atlantis
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Nynne
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Atlantis wrote on 10 Feb. (9:57) :
Nynne wrote on 09 Feb. (16:54) :
Is that a good way of doing it? As the "mastering-freaks" are speaking? ^_^ |
Well, that's what I'm (we're) trying to find out.
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freqs lower than 100hz (not 100% sure if I remember ) I minimize, or mute. Than a small boost at the "good" bass freqs, then a lowering of the muddy bass-freqs (dont remember the freqs). Almost nothing else. Just a small boost around 15khz, to get a polished feel to it. |
I think what this topic (and your post) will boil down to is that there are no rules. If you rely on presets though, you're only going to match the 'general' mix, and probably miss the mark most of the time. Fintuning the frequencies and Q values would then bring out the best in the sound. Plus, of course not every track will need its upper bass frequencies reduced and 15 kHz boosted, which I'd be very careful about anyway. As Matthijs said, overboosting the extreme treble can make the sound fatiguing.
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Yeah, that's what I was trying to tell, that theres no (or shouldnt be) any mastering presets. I don't use any presets, but I caught myself many times starting with the kind of mastering I told about, then twitching a bit on it, due to the feeling of the tune. But I often get the best sound with that kind of "preset"
Perhaps my bass-freqs often ends with some muddy parts, that's why I've tried to dry the bass out a bit. And the "polish"-eqing is perhaps because I feel many of my tunes has some low freqs on the parts that should be polished. Just the way I do though |
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Atlantis
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Dj Breakfingah
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Limiter?
I master my songs with Soundforge's normalizer. I set it to 125% to get a crunchy professional sound.
Piece out.
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