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1up
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Gopher wrote on 18 May. (8:25) :
It's not fun, it's a labour.
It's not actually the money that is the problem - personal finance has never been a problem for me (I'm not rich btw :o) It's just that having a lead-time of 3 months to a track - three months of which one week will be good and the rest of it tedious as hell, doesn't really have the same happy returns that I used to get.
I'm not sure whether I'm being too much of a perfectionist (either way I wouldn't have it any other way - thats just not my style) but I just feel that I'm not really going anywhere but sideways. I don't have the speed, contacts, time or relative skill to go professional, so I probably won't - I don't have time to moonlight on my current job anyway.
So, I suppose, I'm taking a sabbatical. It's just another phase.
Lappy tomorrow!1
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Oh dude, I used to think along that path. What changed me might help you? Here goes: Simply winding down from stressful studies has helped me get the inspiration back. Enjoying life more and foremost listening to inspiring music from others is the fuel that makes me not labour music, but simply let it out.
Classical IS more time consuming than other styles. But if you enjoy what you do, it's no problemo.  You know by now the limitations of your software samples. Try to use that to your advantage. If you get the inspiration back, head in a direction your setup wants you to go! All the best.
I wish you merry times hugging your laptop tomorrow! Great news!
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Louigi Verona
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Enjoying life more and foremost listening to inspiring music from others is the fuel that makes me not labour music, but simply let it out. |
All I heard from good musicians was that it is a lot of work. You have to be very much dedicated to music to go through that.
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1up
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How much of a CPU and memory hog is EWQL? I have 1 GB of ram and a 2,4 Ghz AMD. How far will it take me ye think?
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John Marwin
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If gopher quits, the underground (or semi-underground anyhow) will lose a great musician in my distinct opinion. But, fighting against time and lack of interest is among the hardest things you have to do as a musician.
But, I'm confident that you'll get through this goph, you've just got to!
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Gopher
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1up wrote on 18 May. (10:26) :
How much of a CPU and memory hog is EWQL? I have 1 GB of ram and a 2,4 Ghz AMD. How far will it take me ye think?
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That will enable you to use about 10-20 instruments, not all at the same time.
For my last track I used 2 computers:
Master
2GB Ram, XP3000 athy
20 Instruments
Slave:
1GB Ram, XP1800
10 Instruments
RAM and disk access speeds are the limiting points for samplers. One to store the buffers and enable seamless playback, the other to refill the buffers.
Although RAM was getting to a critical stage when I decided to "cluster" the load, the real problem was disk speed. This is the access time as well as maximum random (if your disk is fragged) or sequential (if you've defragged it) transfer rates.
The CPU isn't such a big deal since you're not really doing any synthesis, you're just moving bytes around - a LOT of them.
Take note: For i386 systems, Cubase at least starts behaving badly around 1.7GB thread size - I imagine other programs have a similar threshold, and you WILL reach that quickly. Windows at least has a maximum single-thread limit of 2GB. If you want to get past this and you have Windows XP SP2, you can append the "/3GB" parameter to the boot.ini line, and that allows slightly larger process threads, as long as you have it. However, this does NOT help if Cubase or your sequencer itself has a predetermined limit. Hence my decision to cluster it. If a better/faster hard-drive is available, you can reduce the buffer sizes using the DFD tools so that more is streamed off the hard-disk, reducing the memory overhead. I didn't quite have this luxury.
So, to summarise:
-CPU is not an issue
-Memory and HD speeds are critical to sampler-dominated composing
-32-bit applications have an absolute max of 4GB in memory; however most software seems to be stuck at around 2GB, maybe less. When you hit that, something has to change
-DFD is very nice, but only goes so far
Good luck
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1up
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Gopher wrote on 18 May. (11:14) :
1up wrote on 18 May. (10:26) :
How much of a CPU and memory hog is EWQL? I have 1 GB of ram and a 2,4 Ghz AMD. How far will it take me ye think?
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That will enable you to use about 10-20 instruments, not all at the same time.
For my last track I used 2 computers:
Master
2GB Ram, XP3000 athy
20 Instruments
Slave:
1GB Ram, XP1800
10 Instruments
RAM and disk access speeds are the limiting points for samplers. One to store the buffers and enable seamless playback, the other to refill the buffers.
Although RAM was getting to a critical stage when I decided to "cluster" the load, the real problem was disk speed. This is the access time as well as maximum random (if your disk is fragged) or sequential (if you've defragged it) transfer rates.
The CPU isn't such a big deal since you're not really doing any synthesis, you're just moving bytes around - a LOT of them.
Take note: For i386 systems, Cubase at least starts behaving badly around 1.7GB thread size - I imagine other programs have a similar threshold, and you WILL reach that quickly. Windows at least has a maximum single-thread limit of 2GB. If you want to get past this and you have Windows XP SP2, you can append the "/3GB" parameter to the boot.ini line, and that allows slightly larger process threads, as long as you have it. However, this does NOT help if Cubase or your sequencer itself has a predetermined limit. Hence my decision to cluster it. If a better/faster hard-drive is available, you can reduce the buffer sizes using the DFD tools so that more is streamed off the hard-disk, reducing the memory overhead. I didn't quite have this luxury.
So, to summarise:
-CPU is not an issue
-Memory and HD speeds are critical to sampler-dominated composing
-32-bit applications have an absolute max of 4GB in memory; however most software seems to be stuck at around 2GB, maybe less. When you hit that, something has to change
-DFD is very nice, but only goes so far
Good luck
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Thanks for the summary. I pretty much had read up on that before I bought my current 'puter but anyway. Maybe my question wasn't specific enough, but I got the magic number of instruments I possible will end up with before the memory is full! That's a fair number, but I guess that's what going to bother me first. Music is such a pain when the 'puter i slow. If it isn't fast, no joy.
Edit: Oh! And thank you.
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Gopher
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No problemo.
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Xtatic
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The viola section at gold is horrible. Uhm.. what else.. the brass is pretty bad too, but it works I guess. If you dont do group buy, and buy the synth at the cost of 999 dollar, I'd rather point you to buy vsl cube or something
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1up
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Xtatic wrote on 18 May. (12:34) :
The viola section at gold is horrible. Uhm.. what else.. the brass is pretty bad too, but it works I guess. If you dont do group buy, and buy the synth at the cost of 999 dollar, I'd rather point you to buy vsl cube or something
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Hehe, I wonder what your references are. Those remarks make me wanna go and hide.
But seriously, the product is already for delivery in a few hours it should be here, and I'm confident I will be pretty pleased with it. And no, I didn't pay the "list price" of 999.
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Xtatic
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Registered: 17.Aug.03 |
Sure, but in time, when you start listening more to orchestra, and doing more orchestral music (if thats what you are going to do with it) you are soon going to realize how horrible the violas are; I dont even load the patches anymore
But the cellos and bass are good. Oh, the percussions are good as well
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