 |
Forum ~ Help ~ [Help] Changing Tempo in Reason... |
 |
 |
|  [Help] Changing Tempo in Reason... [HELP] | |
|
 |
Cdnalsi
  Member
Topics: 239
Replies: 2221
Registered: 17.Jan.03 |
Well, I'm stuck on this one...
I want to be able to change the tempo in a track, say from the middle. Like have the intro at 120BPM then from the middle change it to 160. Or have a slow-down at the end using the tempo.
Is there any way to automate tempo? Does anyone know?
If you find out.. please tell me how 
Cheers! 
 My favorite Within a Deep Forest ball material...
Teh Crap Compo! (15312 hits)
Visit my website | www.cdnalsi.net |
|
1up
 Artist
Topics: 129
Replies: 1022
Registered: 23.Jan.04 |
Cdnalsi wrote on 02 Jun. (0:03) :
Well, I'm stuck on this one...
I want to be able to change the tempo in a track, say from the middle. Like have the intro at 120BPM then from the middle change it to 160. Or have a slow-down at the end using the tempo.
Is there any way to automate tempo? Does anyone know?
If you find out.. please tell me how
Cheers!
|
You don't happen Rewire it via Cubase?
Probably not, but anyways CTRL+T for changing the tempo track.
 |
|
xTr1m
 Administrator
Topics: 106
Replies: 4441
Registered: 11.Oct.03 |
 |
OK, first of all, there is no way to automate tempo in Reason. It's the worst thing there is in Reason, but we have to live with it. So, we know what we don't have. But what do we have?
We can move and stretch notes without the magnet, that way we can adjust the right duration and position of every note. So theoretically it 'IS' possible to make tempo changes in the score by scaling the note durations.
This is not a nice solution, but it is the only one I could think of, and it actually works. My latest production (almost ready) had 3 tempo changes, and it sounds all great.
One thing to keep in mind, is that once we scale the notes, we have to forget the ruler, and forget the quantization.
I will explain a good trick on how to do a flawless tempo change in a song, making examples.
Say you want to have a first part in 125bpm, and a second part in 160bpm. You would start composing the first part in 125bpm. Later, you program reason's speed to 160bpm and start composing the second part (the first one should sound much more faster, but ignore that). Now this is important: complete your second part before doing the tempo change. You can switch the tempo back to 125 if you need to re-hear the first one.
Once you have both parts ready, here comes the trick. Select ALL Notes in all instruments from the second part, right click over one and click Change Events.
There is an option to scale the notes. Here comes a bit of math. You must calculate the percentage that should be multiplied to the note's position and duration. You do that by dividing in our case 125/160, and then multiplying by 100. That gives 78,13%.
If you now scale the complete second part with a value of 78,13%, and you set Reason's speed value back tot 125bpm, you will have the effect that you wanted. For the ears, the second part will be at 160bpm.
Hope that this helped you.
A proud member of CTGMusic Community!
   
|
|
Espen
Member
Topics: 17
Replies: 1618
Registered: 10.Feb.04 |
heh, nice trick you got there x 
 |
|
aulin
Artist
Topics: 5
Replies: 364
Registered: 27.Jan.03 |
Now do the same thing, but this time you want the lfo's (which ofcourse is synced to the tempo), to also follow that tempo-change?.. OH NOEZ.
Not to mention other synced effects You have some serious bypassing and shit to do then |
|
// ..
Member
Topics: 0
Replies: 51
Registered: 23.May.03 |
| well you could also make two different songs with different tempos and then use a dj/mixing software (or real hardware) to make a transition in between the two tempos (if needed). i had a program that came with my sb extigy card that was quite good for dj-like/bpm transitions. dont remember what its called, not using that card anymore (but it was ok-ish). n. |
|
xTr1m
Administrator
Topics: 106
Replies: 4441
Registered: 11.Oct.03 |
I searched over at Propellerheads' forums... users there suggest rendering the second part of the song, and playing it back on a NN-XT at the end of the first part  How lame...
A proud member of CTGMusic Community!
|
|
Randor
Administrator
Topics: 560
Replies: 2948
Registered: 27.Dec.02 |
xTr1m wrote on 02 Jun. (20:49) :
I searched over at Propellerheads' forums... users there suggest rendering the second part of the song, and playing it back on a NN-XT at the end of the first part How lame...
|
Indeed. I'd chop it with recycle and do some tricks within 
There's one bad thing in nn-xt, that damn machine isn't time accurate.
Your trick won't work Frank. As aulin mentioned all tempo synced stuff will be complete mess. Its easier to do 2 mixdowns from your example track with loopmarkers, first with tempo 125 and second one with 160. Then combine these on wave editor...
This is one of the most serious drawbacks on reason (together with time accuracy issues) and it shoud be fixed in first place.  |
|
xTr1m
Administrator
Topics: 106
Replies: 4441
Registered: 11.Oct.03 |
|
Randor wrote on 03 Jun. (5:09) :
xTr1m wrote on 02 Jun. (20:49) :
I searched over at Propellerheads' forums... users there suggest rendering the second part of the song, and playing it back on a NN-XT at the end of the first part How lame...
|
Indeed. I'd chop it with recycle and do some tricks within
There's one bad thing in nn-xt, that damn machine isn't time accurate.
Your trick won't work Frank. As aulin mentioned all tempo synced stuff will be complete mess. Its easier to do 2 mixdowns from your example track with loopmarkers, first with tempo 125 and second one with 160. Then combine these on wave editor...
This is one of the most serious drawbacks on reason (together with time accuracy issues) and it shoud be fixed in first place. |
heheh, Of course it won't work if you use Matrix or Delay or any other BPM dependant stuff... But it works perfectly for me, because I only use NN-XT and Substractor recording live from MIDI.
A proud member of CTGMusic Community!
|
|
Randor
Administrator
Topics: 560
Replies: 2948
Registered: 27.Dec.02 |
xTr1m wrote on 03 Jun. (8:39) :
[heheh, Of course it won't work if you use Matrix or Delay or any other BPM dependant stuff... But it works perfectly for me, because I only use NN-XT and Substractor recording live from MIDI.
|
It won't work even with them if you use lfo's You see, only change is free run. |
|
|
Latest Topics
![[86.34.242.145]](pics/ip.gif){kind=small}
