Louigi Verona
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Still, they say it's best for live performances. Or is it a full production tool? Because I was thinking of maybe using it for live performances only
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kilon
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minomus wrote on 24 Apr. (9:39) :
It's good, yes. And it works as rewire master for Reason well, yes. It's powerful and interesting tools in it, yes. It's good for live performing and creating mixes, yes. Not a single negatige thing in it, no.
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I am a Ableton Live user for 2 years now but I would not claim that Live is perfect
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As a trance producer I tend to use sidechain compressing pretty much. Ableton's own compressor has only an EQ based sidechainer, so that's a bad thing for me |
It is a common complain for Ableton Live. It is a feature that is missing and it seems that Ableton are not willing to implement it in one of the future releases.
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More annoying issue is lack of support for two monitors. And with this I mean that you can't freely arrange your windows inside ableton, for example keeping mixer on one monitor, and arrange on another. |
The truth is that there is not a real need to have two monitors when using Live. Live has two Views Arrangment and Clip view. The Clip View is the Mixer View as well (eventhough there is a mixer in Arrangment view as well) and very easy to change between the two view by pressing the TAB key. So there is no crammed screen as Happens with other software.
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thomas wicklund-larsen
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minomus wrote on 24 Apr. (9:39) :
edzes wrote on 21 Apr. (23:02) :
Ableton Live is an extremely intuitive and powerful piece of software, that surely is a lot more than just a mediocre-looking, efficiant tool for live performances.
Been using it for some months now, and I don't have a single negative thing to mention about it.
I'm pretty sure it'll remain my main production tool for a pretty long time. You should definately stick with it.  |
It's good, yes. And it works as rewire master for Reason well, yes. It's powerful and interesting tools in it, yes. It's good for live performing and creating mixes, yes. Not a single negatige thing in it, no.
As a trance producer I tend to use sidechain compressing pretty much. Ableton's own compressor has only an EQ based sidechainer, so that's a bad thing for me (works well for example when you want to make pads duck a bit under vocals, though). Of course, you can just get a VST compressor for that but... Sidechaining something requires also doubling sidechain signal channel and directing it to the channel which you want to compress (and if it's an VSTi instrument, you have to make audio channel for that -> 2 extra channels for getting something sidechain compressed).
More annoying issue is lack of support for two monitors. And with this I mean that you can't freely arrange your windows inside ableton, for example keeping mixer on one monitor, and arrange on another.
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Both these futures is planned in an future release, so i guess we just have to wait 
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kilon
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Louigi Verona wrote on 24 Apr. (9:49) :
Still, they say it's best for live performances. Or is it a full production tool? Because I was thinking of maybe using it for live performances only
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Its the best for live performances because is the most stable, and the most fully automated by midi controllers. From version 4 is also an excellent production tool. At version 6 which is now is propably the best there is at producing music if your criteria are How Easy it Is to Use/ How Much it Costs/ How many features it offers .
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Louigi Verona wrote on 24 Apr. (9:49) :
Still, they say it's best for live performances. Or is it a full production tool? Because I was thinking of maybe using it for live performances only
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that`s correct a great live tool hence the name but also a full grown production tool
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minomus
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kilon wrote on 24 Apr. (10:01) :
minomus wrote on 24 Apr. (9:39) :
It's good, yes. And it works as rewire master for Reason well, yes. It's powerful and interesting tools in it, yes. It's good for live performing and creating mixes, yes. Not a single negatige thing in it, no.
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I am a Ableton Live user for 2 years now but I would not claim that Live is perfect
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As a trance producer I tend to use sidechain compressing pretty much. Ableton's own compressor has only an EQ based sidechainer, so that's a bad thing for me |
It is a common complain for Ableton Live. It is a feature that is missing and it seems that Ableton are not willing to implement it in one of the future releases.
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More annoying issue is lack of support for two monitors. And with this I mean that you can't freely arrange your windows inside ableton, for example keeping mixer on one monitor, and arrange on another. |
The truth is that there is not a real need to have two monitors when using Live. Live has two Views Arrangment and Clip view. The Clip View is the Mixer View as well (eventhough there is a mixer in Arrangment view as well) and very easy to change between the two view by pressing the TAB key. So there is no crammed screen as Happens with other software.
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Ever used double monitors? There's always real need for it, at least for me. Having mixer (and the clip view) on one and arrangement on another is definitely better than using TAB, especially when I've just 17" monitors. That means that even though there's quick tab changing, usually it requires always a bit of scrolling to see what you want (not least because the bottom bar takes some space). So, if there's two times more space, wouldn't you like to use it?
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kilon
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I did not use it but I have seen setups with two monitors, I prefer using the tab. Matter of taste that is all. It has to do with how the Live screens are organisesd. With Cubase for example that was a problem everything got in the way.
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I've recently been introduced to Live 6 and im converted.. Used to use FL Studio and I was literally converted in a day - even though im starting again from scratch in terms of software knowledge - it's worth it. Everything's just so unexplainably good. The interface is a joy and once you've got your head around 'how' it works (or how YOU want it to work for YOU) its a pleasure. It somehow free's up some kind of cognitive load for you to focus on important things - like being creative - I can't explain it any other way...
Oh - agree about the dual monitor thing! 
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minomus
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kilon wrote on 25 Apr. (13:42) :
I did not use it but I have seen setups with two monitors, I prefer using the tab. Matter of taste that is all. It has to do with how the Live screens are organisesd. With Cubase for example that was a problem everything got in the way.
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Hehe.. that's my point. I didn't expect these things when I was using single monitor, but after getting two monitors I wouldn't change it. The thing is that it's possible that such a quality piece of software (ableton definitely is) doesn't support dual monitors, since Logic, Cubase and even Reason does. But as someone stated in the thread, it's coming... Great, looking forward to it.
Gotta say that I've used Ableton for several months now, and I really liked it. Especially for my setup, which includes Reason for percussions and bassline programming and Ableton to work as VSTi host. But something happened some weeks ago and I went back to Logic, and started using it alone without rewire and I was reminded why I liked so much Logic before  So.. the result is that I've now two pretty well working producing setups, Ableton+Reason, and Logic alone... And both have their place in my production habits, the question is which fits better for the current project.
But as I said before. Ableton is also a good tool for producing, not just for live performance and mixing (which definitely are its best parts). Just wanted to say that there're some things which I don't like in it, and I was pretty surprised since I found them from areas which are pretty well covered in every rival software.
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Yea, Ableton is very good - sound quality is very good and clean ofcourse! This suprised me then i heard it... btw effects sounds very pro
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