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Daniel Somma
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Hi, i want use this knob for not play BD and Bass together and have a noisy clip by master compressor. Hope you've know... i can give a 10 sec MP3 for make an example here.
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| Try the fruity peak controller on the output of the kick and let it control the bass (in an inverted fashion). |
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tyr
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CDE MusiX wrote on 28 May. (9:06) :
Hi, i want use this knob for not play BD and Bass together and have a noisy clip by master compressor.
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You can use
a) fruity peak controller on the compressor like alskling says, (takes a little time to get right)
b) use peakcontroller on an eq to duck the bass once kick plays (worse, but easier)
c) don't play bass and kick and bass at the same time, (so easy it makes you wonder why you didn't think of it sooner)
I can post a little flp in a few minutes if you want me to show you.
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Daniel Somma
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tyr wrote on 28 May. (18:37) :
CDE MusiX wrote on 28 May. (9:06) :
Hi, i want use this knob for not play BD and Bass together and have a noisy clip by master compressor.
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You can use
a) fruity peak controller on the compressor like alskling says, (takes a little time to get right)
b) use peakcontroller on an eq to duck the bass once kick plays (worse, but easier)
c) don't play bass and kick and bass at the same time, (so easy it makes you wonder why you didn't think of it sooner)
I can post a little flp in a few minutes if you want me to show you.
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Thanks, i wanna watch that! (Flp stays for Youtube, or not?)
I know i can play bass and drums not together, but for some mixes of mine, is not good use a punch bass (tunnoo and not tun-doo, for make vocally).
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tyr
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Ok, here are three mp3's and the flp,
Some methods of ducking
Nothing.mp3 has no compression/ducking, the same as the flp file when you open it.
Peakcontroller lowers threshold.mp3 has a peakcontrolled threshold on the bass compressor, when the kick plays, the threshold gets LOWER (and is therefore compressed erlier) this is what you get if you go to the fl mixer and enable the fx on mixer channel 9 (and only 9)
Compressor with high attack.mp3 puts kick and bass into one channel with a compressor with approximately as high threshold as the bass ever reaches on its own, therefore when the kick plays the compressor triggers, waits for the time of the [attack] on the compressor, and then compresses the kick+bass, this is an attempt to keep only the ever important punch of the kick without keeping its long sub.
this is what you get if you go to the fl mixer and enable the fx on mixer channel 8
(and only 8, not 8 and 9!!!!!)
I made the effects a bit extreme so you could hear the difference, hope this helps you at all.... |
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Daniel Somma
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Registered: 14.Apr.05 |
With this file i want verify if i did right.
It's not right use a mixer channel with peak controller to play all drum instruments?
I've maded a little project (Similiar of "Morning Light") with Peak Controller that controls the Volume on the Bass Channel of the Mixer (FX 2) and all Drums parts have a compressor (FX 1) with a Peak controller linked to.
The hihats have to be inserted at another channel? (Because also the hihat sound is in the Peak Controller)
The file is here:
click
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tyr
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Registered: 04.Jan.05 |
CDE MusiX wrote on 28 May. (19:59) :
It's not right use a mixer channel with peak controller to play all drum instruments?
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Well, its not "wrong" but it isn't really for what you were asking about.
I've maded a little project (Similiar of "Morning Light") with Peak Controller that controls the Volume on the Bass Channel of the Mixer (FX 2) and all Drums parts have a compressor (FX 1) with a Peak controller linked to.
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Changed your project so it didn't automate the channels volume, but automated the compressors threshold instead, I recommend you check it out to see the difference,
what you did is not wrong, only different.
Your flp file modified
The hihats have to be inserted at another channel? (Because also the hihat sound is in the Peak Controller)
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Sorry man, but is this a question? |
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Daniel Somma
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Registered: 14.Apr.05 |
Thanks for your help tyr, I appreciate a lot! 
The hihats have to be inserted at another channel? (Because also the hihat sound is in the Peak Controller)
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Sorry man, but is this a question? |
Yes, i have said "if the hihats, cymbals, rides... are in another FL Mixer Channel, the kickdrum sounds better?"
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tyr
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Registered: 04.Jan.05 |
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CDE MusiX wrote on 28 May. (21:32) :
"if the hihats, cymbals, rides... are in another FL Mixer Channel, the kickdrum sounds better?"
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Well, not really, they all end up in the MASTER mixer channel in the end (and the master channel is a mixer channel), but when you use the kick to automate the bassline, I'd reccomend putting the peak controller BEFORE kick and other drums are mixed.
for example
Sample/instrument mixer channels
Hihats, snares----------------------------------------> mixer channel 2 ----> Master
and toms
Kick -------------------> mixer channel 1 ---|----->mixer channel 2------> Master
with peak controller
Bass ---------------------> mixer channel 4 -------------------------------> Master
controlled by peak
controller
(mixer channel 2, here you can mix drums without affecting the peak controller)
I posted this just to show you that this is possible, and there are some benefits of doing this kind of thing if you think a bit, (using fx for many drums without having to use as much cpu, and other stuff like that). Anyway, good luck with your ducking
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