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DJ Twilight
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Topics: 2 Replies: 53
Registered: 28.Jan.07 |
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I'm a DJ who likes to mix all sorts of trance but in particular I like DJing happy hardcore, UK hardcore and freeform hardcore. But time and time again I'm running into this horrible trend...
Some random person finds a popular trance tune (usually eurodance, eurotrance or hard trance song with a catchy melody) puts it into some free software like audacity or winamp or any software with pitch control, and then knocks the pitch up 10-20% and even 30-40% sometimes. Now after altering the song the no name person posts it on sites like youtube and myspace with a new title (sometimes it's the original title) with their name next to the song making it appear that they created it.
Now one might think, people will hate it and leave it alone, I mean the vocals are so distorted they often sound like chipmunks getting their heads sliced off...wrong. The people like the melodies (and for some reason they like to hear the melodies with the pitch up, I can't imagine them liking it with the pitch down) so they keep listening to them over and over again giving our "no name, no talent" artist a lot of undeserved recognition. If you asked the said person who wrote the song, of course they say the no name artist because they don't really know the "real" artist (the trance artist) who spent the time, effort and money making the song.
Now why is this so important...not only is it warping the public's minds when it comes to eurodance, eurotrance and hard trance...it's REALLY warping their minds about what happy hardcore is.
Now where is this happening the worst...the UK and the US (I'm from the US by the way).
And who are the terrible people getting recognition for others' work (this is a VERY short list to name only a few of the growing number):
DJ Rankin': A dumbass from the UK who not only speeds up songs to the point where they all sound like gerbils on X, but also puts out-of-sync rapping from rappers like Eminem over the top. Go check him out...or I mean his plagarism, it sounds like nails on a chalk board. You figure out how he got so popular.
DJ Twocan, DJ Carlee: See above^
DJ Cammy: Wow, another dumbass from the UK who does the exact inane things that Rankin' does but there's a particular reason why I hate him so much. One of my friends knew I DJed happy hardcore and told me that he had a really cool happy hardcore tune he wanted me to listen to. He tells me the song is DJ Cammy - Celebrate the Summer. I was devastated when I heard Lacuna's - Celebrate the Summer completely botched and destroyed. Not only did the guy have the nerve to speed the song up and warp the vocals but he also put in an out-of-sync sample from a Strawberry Shortcake advertisement (Yes, the doll that's made for 3-year olds). My unknowing friend thought this was all normal and dandy, but either way he thought it was perfectly fine.
Nightcore: After, my experiences with Cammy and Rankin' I started to become very weary of unknown artists claiming to make Super Cool Happy Hardcore...it was good I didn't let my guard down. One day I stumbled upon a band name Nightcore from Alta, Finland. I'd never heard of a happy hardcore act from Finland before so I was intrigued. At first I liked what I heard...melodies that were very reminiscient of Scandanavian trance but a lot faster. But something wasn't right...why were the songs so short. At first I tried to tell myself it was because they were just starting out but that didn't make any sense so I listened again. Lone behold, it was because of the pitching. Sorry if this is obvious but I'm going to point it out anyway: Most Eurodance, Eurotrance and Hard Trance EDITS have lengths between 3:00 and 4:00 with 4:30 pushing it. If one pitches up the song 10-30%, that person is chopping off a considerable amount of time as a result of the speed up making the song time range between 2:30 and 3:00 with the occasional 3:30. Go and look at a nightcore song and this is all too evident.
I'm sorry if I'm being so preachy but this is just as bad as the whole Timbaland incident if not worse. If you combined the total number of views and downloards that these so called artists have gotten, we're talking in the tens of millions and soon hundreds of millions. It baffles me to even think of all the lost revenue for the labels which makes me wonder why they take no action but then again I wonder a lot about the ways they operate so maybe that's just a mystery in itself.
If you've read this entire thing I commend you and hope the new knowledge serves you well (or maybe it's not new at all), but please I only ask you to inform yourself and other people with this knowledge. I thought this information would be appreciated here more than anywhere else since everyone here works so hard at what they do and I highly appreciate it.
Thanks again
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slammin vinyl
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Registered: 06.Mar.04 |
Didn't you know that plagerism is perfectly legal these days?
Just ask Timbaland
yer muppet. |
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PartySan
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Topics: 54 Replies: 6015
Registered: 20.Jun.04 |
The only good plagiarism is sampling.
Argh, if I'm still reminded of this, I wish painful death upon Gilbert O'Sullivan.
The modern world is only endurable in small doses.
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g
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Topics: 10 Replies: 2037
Registered: 03.Jan.03 |
| I thought those were instrumental Kanye West tracks. |
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Leadboy
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Topics: 41 Replies: 284
Registered: 16.Dec.05 |
in here , i don't know why but this Dj Cammy is so popular that crowd even has wished that he would come to here (At that moment i wondered what he would do in here? Turn the party speed up???) Anyway , this is discusting what they do ! |
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ReMidi
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Topics: 0 Replies: 2
Registered: 05.Jan.08 |
| i haven't exactly run into what you are talking about but ive heard a lot of absolute crap on youtube that claim to be "remixes" of certain tracks...one was the insomnia track by faithless that was now called "really cool remix" basically it involved the main riff cut out from the original track and badly thrown into a seriously shitty mix where the bass and other synths didn't even fit!......so i kind of understand ur frustration...i am listening now to dj cammys celebrate the summer.....i completely understand how u feel....im not even into this style but this realy pisses me off... |
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Desmond
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Topics: 0 Replies: 1
Registered: 24.Oct.06 |
DJ Twilight wrote on 03 Jan. (5:24) :
One day I stumbled upon a band name Nightcore from Alta, Finland.
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Norway, not Finland. According to myspace at least.
That out of the way, what you ranted about sure sucks indeed.
Will meet them in Hell i suppose |
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DJ Twilight
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Topics: 2 Replies: 53
Registered: 28.Jan.07 |
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Desmond wrote on 19 Jan. (6:05) :
DJ Twilight wrote on 03 Jan. (5:24) :
One day I stumbled upon a band name Nightcore from Alta, Finland.
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Norway, not Finland. According to myspace at least.
That out of the way, what you ranted about sure sucks indeed.
Will meet them in Hell i suppose |
Yeah, I guess they are from Norway, nonetheless I hope you saw how many times people listen to "their" music. Last time I checked it was 3,063,445 times, and this is just on myspace excluding other sites like facebook and youtube.
My rant may have seemed to be more happy-hardcore oriented than anything else, but honestly this is much more than a disgrace to happy hardcore; it's a disgrace to trance and even all of the electronic dance genre for that matter.
I am glad to report that I managed to get one of my friends (one of the few who actually knows what trance music is) away from these artists. It still amazes me when I play the original track for some people and they still like the frickin' screwed up version better. I think sometimes it's the innocence of being "naive" (not knowing much about the genre) and then becoming attached to the first thing one hears and following some type of unending loyalty (maybe I'm over psycho-analyzing this but I think that there are times in my own listening of music where I find myself falling back (liking the most) the first version of a song that I heard (maybe the melodies are simply the most memorable?).
Peace |
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