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FeralCode
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It can be an interesting topic...or it can be a very big quarell (but it should not be). Well, maybe for some of you it is not interesting at all  But let's try...
We were talking a lot about trance music, originality, trance genres, 'old stlye' songs, nowadays influences, repetitiveness, and so on. How about discussing these things in a forum, share our minds, listen to other's opinions...maybe conclude on something...
What is the history of trance music? Who are the starters? Who are the evergreens?
What influenced trance music in its history? How genres were divided and became more and more? What are the popular genres these days? What makes a trance song to 'today's style'?
For a starting point, here is the explanation of trance from allmusic.com:
"Breaking out of the German techno and hardcore scene of the early '90s, Trance emphasized brief synthesizer lines repeated endlessly throughout tracks, with only the addition of minimal rhythmic changes and occasional synthesizer atmospherics to distinguish them — in effect putting listeners into a trance that approached those of religious origin. Despite waning interest in the sound during the mid-'90s, trance made a big comeback later in the decade, even supplanting house as the most popular dance music of choice around the globe..."
Do you have thoughts? Share them. You are not interested in this topic, hm...skip it  |
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Whirloop
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I think the trance culture has lot in common with the hippie culture (I'm serious)
At least when it comes to the way of valueing life.
Trance is not just about the music but also a lifestyle, a way of looking at life and acting towards one another.
Trance is mostly about respecting others. We belive the world can be as one.
When we are dancing we are dancing Toghether, we don't gather in a club to show our individual superiosity towards others.
When we are dancing, maby we are experiencing something that others don't experience. We are experiencing a state of trance. 
Maby it doesn't matter wich music you dance to, but Trance can bring pure extacy right through your ears.
Hard to describe that feeling for people who never had the experience.
Even harder for those who never listen to Trance to understand.
It feels like all the happyness in the world hits you at the same time, leaving a gap in time. You know that you have been dancing but you can't tell for how long.
Like seconds, minutes and hours never accoured.
It's weird.
But no doubt it's heaven on earth.  |
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AlphaHelix
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Trance is not the only style of music that is a lifestlye.. ALL music is a lifestyle. I dunno jack about trance and its origins I just know if a song is interesting... someone please someone make trance INTERESTING!!!!!!!! I mean it can't be that hard for an experienced trance composer all ya need to do is add multiple melodies playing at the same time... its not haaaaaaaaaard i do it with classical music all the time... and no don't ask me to make a trance song to prove it, cause that will never happen. its not that I dislike trance... i just suck with synths and beeps and resonating notes and beeps and repetative drums and bleh ive rambbled on too much and i'll probably be flamed for saying beep -.- WOOOOOOOOO! 'cause nobody listens to techno!' - eminem
oh whirl you might be refering to the extascy not the music... |
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Kevin Zhan
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AlphaHelix wrote on 03 Sep. (1:59) :
I dunno jack about trance
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then don't review trance. and we are not that experienced, hence the amateurism here? 
I tried buying a candleholder at the store, but they didn't have any. So i bought a cake. |
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AlphaHelix
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ugh
why do people read out of context? i dunno tack about trance history |
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obScene
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Yet another innocent thread turns into Alpha-bashing. Anyway, not me.
Here in the states just like the bastard enimem said (who btw is a talent-less bitch ) "nobody listens to techno". Not entirely true.. but there aren't dance clubs filled with trancers like overseas. Unfortunately America is into R&B and anymore dance music over here needs to be dirty, suggestive, vulgar, or outright STUPID!
To me techno is a music for listening not for dancing.. and I guess when you are primarily listening ( not dancing ) you expect lots more ear candy... and lots of time trance doesn't deliver. I mean yes I LOVE to hear multi-layered synths creating interesting melodies and harmonies AND I LOVE a strong beat and sophisticated rhythms. But when the standard form ( if that is even what to call it ) is used... adding one part at a time every 4 or 8 measures for 4 or 5 minutes..... and then goes on and one for 4 or 5 more minutes.... it gets plain BORING!
This is America's problem with Trance... no words... no funk.... no black guys rambling about bitches and ho's.
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RAVE-n
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Brief history of electronic music
Take this for guidelines....
"The 'soul' of the machines has always been a part of our music. Trance always belongs to repetition, and everybody is looking for trance in life... in sex, in the emotional, in pleasure, in anything... so, the machines produce an absolutely perfect trance."
--Ralf Hütter, 1991, quoted in Kraftwerk: Man Machine and Music, Pascal Bussy
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RAVE-n
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AlphaHelix wrote on 03 Sep. (1:59) :
Trance is not the only style of music that is a lifestlye.. ALL music is a lifestyle. I dunno jack about trance and its origins I just know if a song is interesting... someone please someone make trance INTERESTING!!!!!!!! I mean it can't be that hard for an experienced trance composer all ya need to do is add multiple melodies playing at the same time... its not haaaaaaaaaard i do it with classical music all the time... |
Trance != classical
If you do it all the time in classical that doesn't mean it works for trance.
Trance gets somehow hard to listen when there are multiple hooks
at once, but that doesn't mean that there aren't such songs however.
BUT... a nice comment to think about!
oh whirl you might be refering to the extascy not the music... |
The most dominating E-Music cliche of all times...
State of trance != drug using
It can as well come "on dry" you know
"The 'soul' of the machines has always been a part of our music. Trance always belongs to repetition, and everybody is looking for trance in life... in sex, in the emotional, in pleasure, in anything... so, the machines produce an absolutely perfect trance."
--Ralf Hütter, 1991, quoted in Kraftwerk: Man Machine and Music, Pascal Bussy
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acecream
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it started back then in 1916  well i dont belive it i think it is not so far ago when trance in a shape as we know it now poped up. I guess the real starters could electronic artists like jarre is, but nowdays trance i belive it started just a couple of years ago when dance music splited appart into a bit more specific trance and a bit more commercial dance stuff.
But i guess to really know when it started it would be good to know what exactly can be classified as trance music... does it has something to do with the state of mind (you know falling in trans) or is it just a type of music  |
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FeralCode
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Interesting comments by Max I. Fomitchev:
'...Most of us grew with classical music in our blood simply because classical music is centered on melody. We learn to appreciate the melody they day our mother sings us a lullaby, the moment we here a nightingale. Plus, of course, most of us can sing, sing the very melody that we here in classical music....
Qualities of music that we consider intuitive (such as melody) are treated differently across the world....It happened so that in Europe tonal instruments-strings and woodwinds-dominated over percussion. Thus the predominant way of playing music was by working melody on a musical instrument capable of producing sounds of various pitch....In Africa, on the other hand, percussion dominates over melody as drums and tam-tams are almost exclusively used for all occasions that include everyday ceremonies and holiday rituals. Not surprisingly people of African origin prefer rhythm to melody because this is what their ancestors used to do for centuries....
Modern music takes yet another turn. The introduction of synthesizers, sequencers and samplers profoundly changed our perspective on qualities of music and on the process of producing music. ...
However, listeners who prefer classical music often can not comprehend modern electronic music for they search for melody and often 'lock' onto a lead sound in one of the loops and totally miss out on all the percussive and synthetic variations that occur in other lines. Hence all that classical music fans here is the same sequence-'hook'- played over and over again, an extremely short and repetitive melody. What you need to explain to such fans is that they have to make a few steps back and look at the contemporary electronic music from another angle and listen to variations in other lines, especially mid-range synth and miscellaneous percussion patterns where most of the variation occurs..."
I'm coming from the classical music area, I've learnt classical music in school for 6 years. I understand and partly accept all your comments Alpha Helix and anyone else who is not fan of techno/trance music. Though, would you say to some folk artists in Africa or Indonesia to introduce variations or more cacthy melodies into their music?
Trance is a style, a genre, which has some key elements, main features. Is it popular today? Yes. Is it popular today because of our culture? Because of our way of living? I don't know. Is it dominating the music of the world? No.
Trance is something which you feel and like it, or not.at all.
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